Anyone thinking of gemming full haste or mastery besides bouchbagette? this is my gemming:
I was thinking about turning them all into 80 int and 160 mastery just for extra shields and it would only cost me like 1.7k int. So I'd still have a pretty hefty amount of int.
also, i have billion and half logs on WoL if you wanna take the time to search them up.
thanks in advance
Last edited by Sashwa; 2013-11-05 at 06:35 PM.
If you are more worried about your HPS, it's because you spend a rather hefty chunk of your uptime casting Holy Light, Divine Light and Flash of Light when Radiance can serve you better.
It's hurting your holy power generation, and it's actually reducing your beacon funnels because you cast less EFs as a result.
Take http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=10540&e=10867 for example
You succeeded in casting 19 FoLs, 14 DLs and 12 HLs.
For a total of 23 ToR procs, where you could have taken the time to cast 33 more HRs, for 10 more holy power, and it would have done way much more healing with lesser mana. Yes, lesser mana as well.
Hi guys, long time reader here first time poster Finally decided that I need some help. I feel like my healing has been slacking lately. I can't get four piece to save my life, it either never drops or when it does drop goes to a dps.
Here's a link to my armory: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Ra%c3%a8/advanced
Recent logs: worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6px5ofdvkmgbgwo2/
I just recently switched up to more int gems since I don't feel like I'm having mana issues plus we have a shaman and a few priests for mana cd's. Any help would be appreciated.
The lack of communication of healing cds (and cds in general) is a problem which I have brought up many times but noone seems to bother. Our rl think that we miss this fight because of dps and healing reasons and they specifically told me that my healing is low on what I can do with my gear. That's why I came here to ask about any tips or what I might be doing wrong. I hope that we will try Galakras again today so I can test the changes you proposed and see how it goes.
Is there anything else I should watch out about?
PS: Ooops :P
I'm trying to figure out whether I should go for the 7170 haste breakpoint or stick at 3506. Mr. Robot apparently seems to think that my overall rating would go down with switching to the higher BP but that's probably due to the amount of mastery I would lose, which is 6.6%. I would be left with 27% mastery buffed.
I feel like I should switch to the higher breakpoint since a lot of the times it just feels like I can't pump out enough clutch heals when need be.
27% sounds like too little. The AMR standard stat weights are not optimal. AMR will tell you to socket Spirit to no end and resulting in very high spirit builds. Especially for normal mode you won't need that much spirit.
I cannot post links, but armory will be:
My logs from first 8 bosses on reg
can be found from wow-heroes, or at WoL-US-Illidan and guild is precognition, please take a look
I felt as if i was healing my butt off but it was not showing it on a good majority of the fights, im not sure if this was due to the fact that we were 3 healing the fights (with a R druid and R sham), or not, but i find my self going OOM on most of the fights even though i am running a much larger amount of spirit then what i see most paladins run. this is a problem that im hoping you guys can help me solve.
my play style is mostly using HR and HS (with 2 stacks daybreak) then keeping a 3 HoPo on as many people as i can prioritizing tanks. I am reforged to meet the 14 EF tick break point, then going mastery after. my main problem is my mana issue, i am not super disappointed in my output, but i know it could be better as well, please any help will be greatly appreciated.
You really want to cast HS whenever it's off cooldown regardless of daybreak stacks unless you have 5 holy power. Not only is it extremely cheap, it generates holy power which is crucial for your healing output. In your logs you're casting it every 10 second whereas it should be 6 or lower.
How viable is SS or SH in 25 man ? I recently switched from 10 to 25 man (8/14H) and have been struggling a bit when compared to ranking on 10 man. I've generally been a LoD > EF pally, which will no doubt give me a facepalm around these parts, but I've found pretty good success and throughput with it in 10 man.
Also, should I bother going to 8k haste for that 5 second HS? Or just go with the 3.2k haste breakpoint ?
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Regarding Daybreak, its such a small amount of healing and its usually a very very high percent overheal that putting any bearing on it will just cause you more problems than its worth, as fallenangel said.
I received thok's acid-grooved tooth (HC) lastnight and I was wondering if it was any good (10man)? I'm currently using blackfuse HC and horridon's lastgrasp so it'd replace Horridon's.
Other than that, I should spend more time casting holy radiance because it generates more HP and i'd use less mana? Does that go for all fights or just specifically this one?
I figure this is the best thread to ask my question in, as you all seem so helpful!
I'm still fairly new to being a Paladin and this is my first character since I played back in vanilla. Things are so different now!
I'm getting myself confused over the haste/mastery decision. I'm unsure (with my gear - not very high ilvl compared to most of you. I'm only running Flex) how I should go to get the maximum hps for myself.
I do well in LFR but anyone halfway paying attention would do well there. In flex raids I don't have as easy a time of it.
I *like* haste; it ooms me faster but I feel I can usually handle it. But to go to the 7170 breakpoint for haste I would be sitting at 2723 mastery, which seems awfully low.
These are my stats now:
Intellect: 24, 806
And with a haste build (per Mr. Robot)
Would that be terrible? I love healing with haste because it's reactive and fast - and I generate HP quicker. But is my gear too crappy for this?
Or should I be gemming very differently?
I am EF, by the way. I didn't love SH when I had it.
Any advice you have would be amazing.
I'd like to start doing some normal SoO runs with my guild but I want to not let them down and I definitely don't want to be a burden to be carried!
Here is my armory link -
Edit #2: The forums actually won't let me post my armory link yet. But it is bleeding-hollow/Healarity/
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In your gear I'd recommend only going for the 3500 BP, the difference between that and 7170 isn't enough to justify potentially crippling yourself. My personal recommendation for the future would be (probably on robot, or you can just calculator it) to see what it takes to get the next Haste point, and if you have to use a non-spirit gem to obtain it (or a hybrid red gem, but at your level you probably want to max Spirit still) then its probably not worth it.
On the up side though, I think you could probably start looking towards the 7170 BP as soon as you pick up some good trinkets, like Sha's, Blackfuse's or Horridon's (Sorry to say, but the Timless trinket is worse than LFR of all of these), it might still be better to stick with the 3.5k BP at that point, but I always prefer to advise you try it and see if you like it and can handle it. If you can get the Legendary Meta as well, that will help a lot with the mana required to sustain 7170.
With your gear, personally i would recommend using the 3.5k haste breakpoint, stay at 15-16k~ spirit and going for mastery after it, Remember we dont use light of dawn so you want to replace the glyph for something else. Also use and love holy avenger.