I know it's Yahoo but bear with it.
When Newt Gingrich says you're an idiot... yeah, you pretty much are one.
Well given the number of Supreme Court justices who are due to retire soon this election actually will have some pretty long reaching consequences.It's just like every election is the most important one in a generation/lifetime/history of US.
Obama won. He got a lower vote than in 2008, but he won. He won over 300 EC votes.
He was a president who ran on an unemployment rate of over 8% for 40+ months, who presided over a sluggish economy....and he still won.
And the popular vote, sad to say, is essentially meaningless. The parties base their campaigns on the EC system. Not the popular vote.
They won the Presidency.But let's not kid ourselves and think the democrats came away with a huge win.
They secured their hold on the Senate.
Obama won the popular vote
And the Democrats even appear to have picked up some seats in the House. Not totally un-noteworthy given how gerrymandered that body is.
That looks like a fairly substantial win to me. And if he lost two states, the big fact the Republians can't ignore is the increasing Democratisation of traditional Republican states.
The Republicans, conversely, have campaigned on a set of policies that while attractive to white, middle aged males alienates just about every other demographic in the country. Even if they HAD won, few of their policies would have lasted long. In a way, the Republicans losing is good for them...because it gives them a chance to reflect and try to engage with the modern world instead of enacting policies that would drive them out of power for a generation.
Republicans have a long history and much to be proud of. But their drift to the extreme right has hurt them, and it has hurt their credibility. The electorate is not naive enough to think Romneys uncosted plans based on wishful thinking are going to help the nation. They electorate are smart enough to realise Romneys plans didn't work too well when Bush enacted them. The electorate is smart enough to recognise that Romneys foreign policy essentially mirrored Obamas.
Obama may not be better in many regards, but he at least is a known quantity this time around. But the Republicans need to realise that they live in the world that is, not the world as they wish it to be. European style austerity measures may be the Holy grail to the Tea Party, but can the nation really afford the 2% hit to growth such policies have caused Europe?
Will the Republicans win in 2016? It is possible. But they have a long road to convince those who voted Democrat this time that the GOP are a party vote voting for. If they continue to treat the elctorate like dirt, they're going to lose again. Heck...if the trends contine, it won't be that long before TEXAS is democratic.
Obama did not win because of Sandy or Christie
Obama did not win because of a media conspiracy
Obama did not win because of voter suppression or electral fraud.
Obama won because he ran a better campaign against a weak opponent who wasn't fully supported or embraced by his party.
He won because the policies he is following, the policies he said he would follow, are more in tune with what the electorate want
He won because the electorate still blames Republicans for the economic mess the nation is in and for the obstructionism that cost the nation so dearly in recent years.
He won because the policies Romney and the GOP espoused scares many voters away from a party they have much in common with.
Until the GOP recognise this, until they realise that their dreams of immigration control are essentially dead, that their economic plans turn off more people than they attract, that their foreign, defence and security policies scare many people, until they undo the taint of corrupt business that follows them, they are not likely to be truly successful at a national level for many years. The GOP has time to wed their traditional and admirable beliefs of small government and fiscal responsibility into a framework acceptable to the nation. But it has to want to do that.
And burying its head in the sand, in a manner akin to this post, is not going to do it, or its supporters any favors. Until then, we can at least rest assured that they will strive to succeed in their goal of ensuring Obama is a two-term president. We all know thats more important than dealing with the economic mess.
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Honestly? I think he only won because the democrats ran weak candidates twice in a row.
PPP was the most accurate poll in 2012, they've released their first post-election poll results.
Some of the highlights: 49% of Republicans polled think Acorn stole the election for Obama, despite having closed its doors two years ago.
56% of Republicans polled oppose the secession movement*. Oddly enough, when broken down by race, more Hispanics than Caucasians support secession.
Despite winning 70some percent of the Hispanic vote, Obama's approval rating with Hispanics is only 56%. They're paying attention.
Grover Norquist's favorability rating is highest with twenty-somethings, at 26%
Secession is actually most popular with the youngins, too, at 29%
77% answered 'not sure' about Nate Silver. Guess he wasn't as famous as those of us campaign junkies thought?
*"Would you support or oppose your state
seceding from the union because of Barack
I like this bit of commentary, from Bob Cesca @ Huffpo:
"First, the good news. Fifty-six percent of Republican voters aren't really interested in seceding from the United States.
Wait. Isn't that kind of low given the seriousness of topic?
The bumper-sticker party of "these colors don't run" -- the party that practically branded the notion of American patriotism during the previous decade -- is only around half-sure that it doesn't want to totally abandon the United States it heretofore claimed to love so much. The other half is split between still making up its mind on secession and totally wanting to secede right away."
But I guess they were saying "Love it or leave it" as well. I don't think they meant "and pretend you can take the state you live in with you" at the time though.
The best thing for republicans to do would be to close up shop and go home. A single party system is the only way for the kingdom to progress.
Being a conservative, and being a Republican are things that I'm proud of. I have a great desire to see this country stand up and be the greatest in the world (I feel we could be better than we are). Small government, individual responsibility, and the proper promotion of capitalism, as opposed to increasing socialism and growing reliance on our government are things that we as a nation need to strive towards, but without a reworking of our party itself, and the way we structure ourselves, the things we oppose will only continue to grow.
The largest issue is that we (the Republican party) are simply standing our ground, and refusing to budge whatsoever. We need to come up with compromises, and need to slowly start working back towards the principals that made this country what it is. The image that's presented (regardless of it's accuracy) is that of a bunch of stodgy old white men who don't give a shit about anyone else, and even though it's not true, that doesn't matter. What matters is how we're perceived, and right now we're perceived as being just that. There's absolutely no reason Obama should have been able to win this past election. The Republicans lost it for themselves. There was a grand opportunity to step in, take control, and put things back on the right track, but thanks to infighting, and perceived inability or unwillingness to do what we need to do (versus Obama who ADMITTED THAT HE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING!!!) we're stuck with 4 more years of increased socialism, and the further decline of the American Way.
Meh... The republicans got to screw things up for years under Junior. So why get upset over the democrats wanting to have a turn to do the same?
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