BOA account wide should of had priority over mount account wide

[anisadora]

People can level without heirloom gear, which just goes back into storage after it's done being used plus it only works until 80/85. It's very easy to obtain again by grinding a little bit of justice points, honor points or gold.

Mounts, however, at least the rarer ones...may not even be able to be obtained again and even if they are able to be obtained they might be difficult to get on other characters due to raid or drop rate limitations. It makes sense that people would ask for and Blizzard would give them the ability to choose whichever of their mounts that they wanted to use on any character before giving them their heirloom gear which is really easy to get again if you really want it.

Thank you. And really, while this is a minor minor thing.... it isnt completely cosmetic. Buying all those mounts -again- on an alt, because youre obsessive compulsive, can get expensive. Its nice to not have to buy more mounts on alts.

[Asmodias]

What's the point of having account wide mounts before account wide gear? (including servers wide, like mounts)

So you can go in a BG at lvl 30 on your Northrend Mammooth? Wow, game changing improvment.

Instead of this they should have created a gear tab similar to the mount tab, where you could pull out BOA gear from any server you're on, on any character you're on.

That, or give badges to every character you make, which you can exchange at a quartermaster for BOA gear that you already own on another server.

I'm sick of people defending Blizzard with the argument "it takes too much time, it's too difficult". No, it doesn't, ok? Programming isn't a mysterious arcane art, you don't need 6 months to implement a solution that works for something. Programming is like math: if you know the theory and you've practiced, whenever you encounter a new and difficult problem you have the tools to find a solution.

And for god's sake Blizzard have so many features and implemented code for stuff that creating the 2 solutions I've mentionned above would probably take them a day or two to get a stable system for it, with their ressources.

People have been asking for account wide BOA gear ever since it was implemented, I don't remember seeing nearly as many people asking for account wide mounts, a feature which is utterly useless except in aesthetics and e-peen stroking rights at low levels.

Give us shit we need.

I feel your pain. It would be really nice to have truly BoA heirlooms. Your idea of badges and a Quartermaster isn't too bad, at least in my eyes. That said, I think you are stabbing at the darkness with the idea of a 2 day turn around on code like this. Now, I know nothing of you... Who knows, you could be a programmer, but I am going to guess that you aren't. (my apologies if I am incorrect in my assumption) Let me put it to you this way,

If you are a programmer, then you would understand that implementing code can have repercussions. Simply adding this in has the potential to break other bits of code. Thus, the code you are adding would need extensive testing. Even simple tasks require more time than people outside the industry realize.

If you aren't a programmer, then please take in to consideration the above statement.

Blizzard has said that there are tech limitations that stop them from allowing cross realm mail, to that point... none of us (well, none of us outside of Blizzard's Dev group) know how complex their code structure is.

Think of it this way, with the addition of mounts and pets being available across an entire account, Blizzard has laid the groundwork for truly BoA heirlooms. Look at the mounts/pets "tab" as a beta test for Heirlooms. With the tech that they have in place now, I would imagine that it wouldn't take too much more to make the system work. What you have to understand, is that Blizzard doesn't want to "half-ass" the solution. Your ideas, while working, may not be the way Blizzard envisions that system being implemented.

The last thing I want to touch on from your post is the final statement. "Give us shit we need". Technically, Blizzard has already provided you with a way to get your heirlooms to another server. Yes, it's not ideal, and it can be expensive, but the way exists. So, technically, you have been "given the shit you need".

---------- Post added 2012-11-10 at 11:06 AM ----------

I don't know, I think the "shared" bank could make things much easier, like in Diablo 3.

This wouldn't work in the WoW setting, unfortunately. Reason being, each realm is its own server. The shared bank in Diablo works because all of your toons are on 1 server. Granted, I am guessing here (because I don't have multiple licenses, I just have an EN-US license) but I don't think your bank is shared across all 4 of their servers.

[Brazorf]

Blizzard has said that there are tech limitations that stop them from allowing cross realm mail, to that point... none of us (well, none of us outside of Blizzard's Dev group) know how complex their code structure is.

TO add to this, this is also code that has been maintained modified and got stuff added for long years. Most of the time the more the code is modified touched and get something added the more clusterfucked it becomes and the more difficult is to add further stuff without breaking everything.

Major patches in programming (identified by this kind of enumeration 1.0/2.0/3.0/etc.) usually get used to try to take the chance to have a look at the code and try to rewrite it in an again user-friendly way and optimize it. I don't know how much it is possible to do so for a project so huge as a MMORPG and as delicate

[Omgakitty]

BoA gear is has 0 endgame use. Tabard tab should be next imo.

[Seregon]

Put OP to work at Blizzard and let him program the solution for it. Seriously, it's not as easy as people make it out to be. WoW has a codebase of possibly millions of lines of code. Each change affects a lot of other stuff and writing spaghetti code in order to accommodate changes like the one proposed by OP is never a good solution if you want to maintain a (relatively) bug-free code base.

[fizzbob]

this won't happen

x-server boas = loss in profits

why would they ever do this

---------- Post added 2012-11-10 at 01:25 PM ----------

Put OP to work at Blizzard and let him program the solution for it. Seriously, it's not as easy as people make it out to be. WoW has a codebase of possibly millions of lines of code. Each change affects a lot of other stuff and writing spaghetti code in order to accommodate changes like the one proposed by OP is never a good solution if you want to maintain a (relatively) bug-free code base.

it's as easy as the pets you get on every toon on every server

that's how easy it is

99% of blizzard's issues, like every company, come down to money. you don't even need a basic understanding of coding to do this, you'd have to go into their wowtools program, check the flag that the account wide pets have and then save and hotfix

it would literally take 5 minutes. yes, it's that easy, yes i've seen it and yes i could do it right now if given the opportunity.

but it would cut into their profits.

[bloodwulf]

-SNIP-

Fizzbob, don't make up mistruths.

Blizzard has said they are working on making BOAs transferrable, as well as other things. It is simply a matter of complexity of the problem versus what else is on the schedule.

Blizzard is running a game that probably still has lines of codes from 2004 (hence why the backpack has yet to get expanded) and it is utter impossible to predict what a seemingly simple change (larger backpack) might break. Don't blame it on money grabbing when you have zero idea on the work it involves to do something.

[Spinachsandwich]

Fizzbob, don't make up mistruths.

Blizzard has said they are working on making BOAs transferrable, as well as other things. It is simply a matter of complexity of the problem versus what else is on the schedule.

Blizzard is running a game that probably still has lines of codes from 2004 (hence why the backpack has yet to get expanded) and it is utter impossible to predict what a seemingly simple change (larger backpack) might break. Don't blame it on money grabbing when you have zero idea on the work it involves to do something.

Blizzard lies, don't believe anything they say. The only reason there isn't a solution to the boa issue is blizzard's love of server change money.

[Matchu]

From a programming perspective, BoA mounts is significantly easier to do than BoA heirlooms. Thus, it was done first.

[Seranthor]

What's the point of having account wide mounts before account wide gear? (including servers wide, like mounts)

So you can go in a BG at lvl 30 on your Northrend Mammooth? Wow, game changing improvment.

Instead of this they should have created a gear tab similar to the mount tab, where you could pull out BOA gear from any server you're on, on any character you're on.

That, or give badges to every character you make, which you can exchange at a quartermaster for BOA gear that you already own on another server.

I'm sick of people defending Blizzard with the argument "it takes too much time, it's too difficult". No, it doesn't, ok? Programming isn't a mysterious arcane art, you don't need 6 months to implement a solution that works for something. Programming is like math: if you know the theory and you've practiced, whenever you encounter a new and difficult problem you have the tools to find a solution.

And for god's sake Blizzard have so many features and implemented code for stuff that creating the 2 solutions I've mentionned above would probably take them a day or two to get a stable system for it, with their ressources.

People have been asking for account wide BOA gear ever since it was implemented, I don't remember seeing nearly as many people asking for account wide mounts, a feature which is utterly useless except in aesthetics and e-peen stroking rights at low levels.

Give us shit we need.

Respectfully, you dont 'need' account-wide BOAs... you WANT them... as far as mount and pets... thats been asked for as well, just because YOU didn't ask for it, doesn't make your demands a higher priority...

---------- Post added 2012-11-11 at 07:45 AM ----------

WHY SHOULD I GET OVER IT?

I am a PLAYER amongst MANY PLAYERS who demands a service which is WIDELY DEMANDED. For every account wide mount page thread on the official forums I can find you 3 asking for account AND servers-wide BOA gear.

I can find you more threads asking for server wide BOA gear than threads asking for marshes of crapdaria, and that's a FACT.

Yes, you might be able to find those threads, however, as its already been pointed out to you AND explained in detail, Blizzard and many of their players felt that mounts > BOAs. Additionally, I BET that if you had a poll and asked 'would you give up your account wide mounts in order to have account wide BOAs... I am CERTAIN that you'd get a resounding 'NO BLEEPING WAY' out of the vast majority of players.

[OATZYEA]

boa should definatly of had prio over account wide mounts !!