For real, follow the flow the thread.
You get a superb education system that helps keep you rich and you think they're overpaid? Fuck it, pay them the levels of Mississippi. See what happens as your state becomes deeply impoverished as everybody moves away.Even if we were top in the country, though, that wouldn't change the fact that we started overpaying our teachers and then took logic, reason and financial responsibility and set them on fucking fire as we began showering them with even more money.
Then don't lay them off? How about you stop making them pay for more stuff they should get and did get? That's a bit of a shitty trick, expecting them to take massive theoretical paycuts. They have mortgages and lives, you know. Most people would revolt at 11% pay cuts.So we came up with a crazy idea. We'd have teachers start paying 1% of their salaries into their pensions and some small percentage (I can't remember but it was something around 10%) into their health insurance (both of which were 100% subsidized prior) and agree to a pay freeze for one year. No layoffs, no slashed benefits or suspended pensions. All three unions involved threatened to strike (The teachers DID strike. Way to work for the kids, assholes.) and not a single one agreed to a pay freeze. So we now see stories spreading around the country how "one of the most crime filled states lays off cops and teachers".
Eh, it's the area around DC giving them false statistics.So even if we're #4, I'd be happier where fucking Virginia is. Happily chugging along at #6 and NOT staring down the pit of government bankruptcy. Oh and they're Right to Work, too.
Their education system has a whoooole bunch of shit to deal with, not the least some of the biggest numbers of immigrants in America and the gang problems. Education spending includes things like paying for police and security. I doubt Cali is actually substantially putting in more per person.And you know what? California spent even more than us on their teachers and THEY'RE bankrupt for the same reasons we are.
Nevertheless, you found the one "blue" state and bang on about the one "red" state. Overall trends still show you very, very wrong.
And ignore the teacher in number #49 who actually has the education and the statistics to prove his point. Are you sure you aren't anti-intellectual?Why don't we ask Dacien how that's working out for their education system way down at #34.
In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
No matter how many times you explain that Clinton never paid down our gross outstanding debt, only borrowed from different sources they still refuse to admit that he didn't ACTUALLY create a surplus.
Well we always know right wingers likes to blame anything bad on the working poor i mean the crash in 2008 was created by poor people as well wasnt it?
Just pointless to discuss with folks that think the weakest and the most vulnerable in the country is the reason anything bad happens.
We have greedy folks pitching hizzy fits over 14cents on a pizza. It just shows what view of the world they have and it is all GREED GREED GREED and more GREED. And always blame the weakest and the most vulnerable. Even if we put min wage at 1cent the far right would still complain it is too high.
And just want you to know Sweden have no min wage must be a good place for business i mean ZERO min wage but Sweden had 15% inflation in 1980 i know i was around at that time.
And with no min wage laws in Sweden how come Sweden had 15% inflation you just said "" causing MORE inflation "" How can something a country doesnt have cause more inflation it is proof enough that blaming the poor is just the typical right wing scapegoat.
I think equating Grand Vizier Bar-Bar the Magnificent to Karl Marx should automatically disqualify you from any serious discussions on the topic.