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  1. #581
    Quote Originally Posted by ranku View Post
    im just saying, the reasons he is giving don't sound like reasonable cause and it doesn't seem like something he can back-peddle away from.
    Well it might not seem right, but it's perfectly legit to fire someone because policy will make it so you can't afford them.

    What would be nice is if he weren't using politics as a scapegoat to turn him into a "reluctant" asshole.

    If you can't afford to keep people on, fine. Own up to it and say "Due to budgetary changes we're forced to lay off X number of people". Don't say "Due to Obamacare we're going to have to lay off X number of people".

    That's just fucking stupid.

  2. #582
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranku View Post
    aren't these practices technically illegal due to firing without reasonable cause?
    No. Welcome to "at will employment" and self-regulation. You can be fired at any time and no reason need be given. In exchange for this precarious state of affairs, you theoretically can quit at any time (but you better give 2 weeks notice if you don't want to be blackballed).

  3. #583
    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    No. Welcome to "at will employment" and self-regulation. You can be fired at any time and no reason need be given. In exchange for this precarious state of affairs, you theoretically can quit at any time (but you better give 2 weeks notice if you don't want to be blackballed).
    Yes, "at-will" employment is so fucking terrible.

    Employees and employers both have rights. An employee has the right to not be discriminated against. An employer has the right to not pay for employees he can't afford.

    If Schnatter doesn't think he can afford employees he's well within his rights to fire them.

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Greeney View Post
    How the hell does someone who sells such shitty pizza get a house that big? Holy shit USA, start eating at a local pizza place. It's not like pizza is expensive.
    I always see people say this, and yet I've found one good 'local' pizza place. Most places are stuck being local for a reason (and it's that they taste like shit).
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  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    I always see people say this, and yet I've found one good 'local' pizza place. Most places are stuck being local for a reason (and it's that they taste like shit).
    Of all the places I've had pizza, and I've had a lot, the worst pizza I ever had was the Papa Johns I had at Six Flags. Only time in my life I was grateful a slice of pizza was so small.

  6. #586
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    I always see people say this, and yet I've found one good 'local' pizza place. Most places are stuck being local for a reason (and it's that they taste like shit).
    That's because, despite what anyone will admit, the only good local pizza places exist in the American Northeast.

    I've had pizza in many other places (not california but yes in europe) and nothing compares to a legit new york deep dish. Better milk in Europe can go fuck itself, I can't taste the difference.

  7. #587
    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    People are surprised by this? If you increase the costs of doing business, it's usually the customers or the employees (or both) who pay the costs.
    then we should increase the income tax for the top bracket to teach them a lesson

  8. #588
    Quote Originally Posted by Greeney View Post
    Of all the places I've had pizza, and I've had a lot, the worst pizza I ever had was the Papa Johns I had at Six Flags. Only time in my life I was grateful a slice of pizza was so small.
    I've never had Papa Johns but I have had Dominos' 1.0.

    That shit was terrible. It was like if they spread a cardboard disc with tomato ketchup and dropped some USDA rejected cheese on it and covered the whole thing with salt to mask the flavor.

    It was so bad that the next time I went over a friend's house and they said they were ordering Dominos I told them I'd already eaten. Truth was I hadn't actually eaten that day and it was 2 AM before I finally had some food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undercovergnome View Post
    then we should increase the income tax for the top bracket to teach them a lesson
    I hear raising taxes on a group of people because a minority of them "needs to be taught a lesson" is a sane course of action.

  9. #589
    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    I've never had Papa Johns but I have had Dominos' 1.0.

    That shit was terrible. It was like if they spread a cardboard disc with tomato ketchup and dropped some USDA rejected cheese on it and covered the whole thing with salt to mask the flavor.

    It was so bad that the next time I went over a friend's house and they said they were ordering Dominos I told them I'd already eaten. Truth was I hadn't actually eaten that day and it was 2 AM before I finally had some food.
    I feel like you're exaggerating. I've had Domino's pre-revamp, and it wasn't nearly that bad. It was shit, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't what you described.

    The only place I've ever had what you described (no exaggeration) was at a roller rink when I was 12.
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  10. #590
    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    I've never had Papa Johns but I have had Dominos' 1.0.

    That shit was terrible. It was like if they spread a cardboard disc with tomato ketchup and dropped some USDA rejected cheese on it and covered the whole thing with salt to mask the flavor.
    That's how I felt after eating Papa John's 2 years ago, just without the salt. Didn't digest it well either.

  11. #591
    Yeah, pre-revamp Dominos wasn't literally inedible, it just tasted about the same as shitty freezer pizza.

  12. #592
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfist View Post
    I always see people say this, and yet I've found one good 'local' pizza place. Most places are stuck being local for a reason (and it's that they taste like shit).
    Unfortunately, people are gullible to these commercials and money that that the chain pizzas can pump out and neglect the small businesses.


    Oh well, least I live in NY.

  13. #593
    Papa Johns is just barely above supermarket frozen pizza. I was also shocked that "Papa John" owned a castle.

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    Meanwhile, in MA atleast, RadioShack/Target is going on a hiring spree with their whole Target Mobile thing.

  15. #595
    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    Papa Johns is just barely above supermarket frozen pizza. I was also shocked that "Papa John" owned a castle.
    I find the frozen pizzas I get to be much better than the ones at fast food pizza places

  16. #596
    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    I find the frozen pizzas I get to be much better than the ones at fast food pizza places
    You can actually make them pretty tasty if you add some of your own fresh ingredients to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    You can actually make them pretty tasty if you add some of your own fresh ingredients to them.
    Had a pretty good pepperoni pizza after adding pepperoni to a frozen cheese pizza.

  18. #598
    Quote Originally Posted by someotherguy View Post
    Well, people are free to vote with their wallets, and buy pizza elsewhere.
    I recommend a local pizza shop.
    I was about to say all chains suck, except for the romeo's near my place, really excellent pizza, don't know if it's the same for others though.

    On topic: it just seems so ridiculous that they have the audacity to say they'll layoff people when they got bank accounts just full of money that they don't even need. Now if they were actually to report losses because of this (which I think would be highly unlikely) then it would seem that they were already in trouble to begin with.

  19. #599
    People simply love scapegoats, especially when they can fingerwag from the comfort of castles.

    What's really happening in the big picture is that the never ending chase for capitalistic 'efficiency', which places a higher importance on shareholders than employees, is coming around to bite everyone in the ass since there's no artificial bubble out there right now to mask it.

    Reap what you sow.

    Also, Papa John's pizza is terrible.
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  20. #600
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Yeah, pre-revamp Dominos wasn't literally inedible, it just tasted about the same as shitty freezer pizza.
    The Dominos around me is just awful, though to their credit the new pan pizza they have is actually pretty decent and a dominos like 30 mins away from me actually made pretty good pizza.

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