Zev ZA was a raid in BC not a dungeon. And yeah what Destil said.
Zev ZA was a raid in BC not a dungeon. And yeah what Destil said.
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What you stated above indicated that if they do make a Troll raid in 5.2 it would be lazy design, which i say, do you follow or play this game? because the last RAID we've had has been as you indicated Zul'aman, not dungeon, RAID. When did ZA launch? 2007, which means it has been years since we've had a new troll raid, meaning is not lazy design if they make a new Troll RAID in 5.2. Gundrak was supose to be a raid in wotlk but that didnt make it. So i say again if they do make a new raid in 5.2 (which is clear to be in league with Mogu and the Thunder King) is lazy design?
People didn't like removing ZG, it was a big thing. They bring back as a heroic dungeon...."WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" Same thing with ZA albeit it was more reused but hey ZA took one for the team.
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As far as I am concern, Cataclysm had a patch with Troll dungeons. Cataclysm - Patch 4.1: Rise of the Zandalari. No raids, just revamped heroics. So they delivered a patch with no raids, and revamped troll dungeons to fill in for the «missing» raid content. Doesn't those Troll dungeons count as Troll content?
That is lazy design. I don't wish for the same. A brand NEW troll raid (or heroics) in 5.2 is always better than a revamped troll raid (or heroic).
Of course, I would prefer a brand new non-troll raid in 5.2, but that is my personal wish. Sorry if my first post wasn't the best to clarify this point.
On my scale: Non-troll raid/heroics > New Troll raid/heroics > Revamped Troll raid/heroics
Last edited by mmoc0e82c355ee; 2012-11-12 at 06:35 PM.
Ok so you just dont like Troll Lore/Dungeons, becuase like i said we havent had a new Raid since 2007, ZA and ZG were re-vamped as 5man dungeons. I repeat we have NOT had a Troll Raid since Zul'aman was introduced in 2007. You just dont like them, it does NOT mean is lazy design because you dislike the race.
It is clear that you love the Troll race and lore. Although I play mostly Horde, I don't. Too much of anything gets boring, for me.
Also, for me, any raid or heroic, if it was revamped to max level, I always get the feeling it is lazy design. Being Troll-based content or not.
You might disagree with me on this, and that's fine.
Last edited by Aeluron Lightsong; 2012-11-12 at 06:59 PM.
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Just because patch 4.1 contained 2 Troll dungeons that were both revamped raids does not mean that there is any connection between revamped content and Troll dungeons/raids whatsoever. 4.1 was the first time any Troll raids or dungeons had ever been redone (unless you count the minor modifications done to most of the instances in 4.0), and there is no reason to assume the pattern will continue because there is no pattern.
Based on all the indications we've seen, patch 5.2 will include a massive Troll/Mogu raid, with the Thunder King as an end boss, located on the inaccessible island north of Townlong Steppes.
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