Blood Legion Heroic Heart of Fear 25 Man World First, All Difficulties Garalon Hotfix

[whoranzone]

First Realm First Paragon didnt take. Coincidence? Maybe. Paragon not raiding 25? Maybe.

pretty sure they are by far the best guild on their realm no worries.

[eschatological]

For those of you who are saying "OMG NO ROGUES" there's literally three melee DPS on this kill. A ret pally, a WW monk, and a warrior. The other two people in melee are tanks, a blood DK and a prot pally. All the shaman are ele or resto, all the other paladins are holy, there are no other DKs, no feral druids (they're all balance, lol).

I don't really know what the fight is like on heroic, I've only done normal, but I imagine the p2 add killing and the fact that they gib melee if they fixate suddenly probably led to them not being very favored.

Also, the leadership of BL is a bit rage-y, but not bad. Sco is definitely more calm for Method, but different strokes for different folks.

[Paisti]

pretty sure they are by far the best guild on their realm no worries.

Thank you that was the first thing I saw.

Got something more constructive to say about how these things might be? Other than that it is US world first now after a long while.

[NeverStop]

Riggnaros may rage sometimes, but that guy knows how to get shit done. Glad to see Blood Legion finally come ahead of Vodka / Method / Paragon.

[Cirax]

It's only a matter of time before your precious 25m means nothing bro, 10m is gaining more popularity and already the best guild in the world has gone 10m cause of raiders obligations, more will join it and your e-peen strokes will be no more because you'll be doing the same as everyone else.

"already the best guild in the world has gone 10m"

Paragon went 10man because they lost 14 members that has been with them for quite a long time and the recruits they managed to get were good but not on the level of those that quit. In the end they weren't able to rebuild the guild to it's former glory so it was either switch to 10man or everyone part ways. They would still be a 25man had they been able to recruit enough quality players so just because Paragon is a 10man now doesn't mean it's harder or easier.

All you fanboys/haters of either guild need to be on your merry way.

GJ BL

[balir]

Only 3 melee dps - Ouch. Personally, from watching top guilds, listening to streams and reading posts, melee has been getting more and more irrelevant. If most melee didn't have an interupt, I bet we wouldn't see them in cutting edge raiding guilds at all.

[lunchbox19]

How about you stop with the hard on with dream paragon? That would be really awesome. They are 10 man now, you never-ever reported 10 man until they did so knock it off.

[whoranzone]

Thank you that was the first thing I saw.

Got something more constructive to say about how these things might be? Other than that it is US world first now after a long while.

Something constructive about what ? You claimed they were not realm first which is not correct since they still are. In case you were trying to claim they were not world first - they got it on Emperor's Will this very tier.

[Kabloosh]

4 Blood Elves, 6 Pandas, 4 Orcs, 3 Tauren, and 8 trolls. Is there something about trolls that make them such awesome spell casters cause all the mages, and boomkins are trolls and there is a lone troll priest. All the pet classes are Orcs save for the random warrior there.

There is zero undead and rogue representation and I only saw a lone ret pally and warrior as the melee excluding tanks in that entire group make up. I suppose the undead thing can be overlooked but I find the lack of melee dps to be quite interesting.

[Animaneth]

4 Blood Elves, 6 Pandas, 4 Orcs, 3 Tauren, and 8 trolls. Is there something about trolls that make them such awesome spell casters cause all the mages, and boomkins are trolls and there is a lone troll priest. All the pet classes are Orcs save for the random warrior there.

There is zero undead and rogue representation and I only saw a lone ret pally and warrior as the melee excluding tanks in that entire group make up. I suppose the undead thing can be overlooked but I find the lack of melee dps to be quite interesting.

Troll could be explained by their racial Berserker. +20% cast / attack speed for 10 sec, 3min cd. Your own mini heroism.

[Yalingo]

4 Blood Elves, 6 Pandas, 4 Orcs, 3 Tauren, and 8 trolls. Is there something about trolls that make them such awesome spell casters cause all the mages, and boomkins are trolls and there is a lone troll priest. All the pet classes are Orcs save for the random warrior there.

There is zero undead and rogue representation and I only saw a lone ret pally and warrior as the melee excluding tanks in that entire group make up. I suppose the undead thing can be overlooked but I find the lack of melee dps to be quite interesting.

Troll racial "berserk" and 5% extra damage against beasts are my guess.

[melzas]

Only 3 melee dps - Ouch. Personally, from watching top guilds, listening to streams and reading posts, melee has been getting more and more irrelevant. If most melee didn't have an interupt, I bet we wouldn't see them in cutting edge raiding guilds at all.

There is also a feral druid. Makes it four (arms,ret,ww,feral)

Also: No male blood elves???? SRSLY BLIZZ FIX IT!!!!!!

[good diu bro]

There is also a feral druid. Makes it four (arms,ret,ww,feral)

Also: No male blood elves???? SRSLY BLIZZ FIX IT!!!!!!

Who is the feral?

[tibben]

and on the pluss side 25 man is going to die just like 40 man did . just wait for the numbers to drop . 10 man raids are the future . you can carry at least 7 people in a 25 raid . in 10 man raids all have to be focused . 25 man is just for casual raiders

It is apparent you have never raided 25 man heroic while it was current content.

Of course you can carry 7 players in 25 man heroic when there's a 30% nerf and the other 18 players are in nearly BiS gear and have downed the boss 30+ times. Try it without any strategy videos while barely having enough gear to meet the enrage timer. Let me know how that turns out with 7 people standing in fire.

[Karnige]

bs its all range now. rogues are useless also now. least played class and only getting worse if thats possible. sigh

[nehunter]

Ok, personally I think bringing up "10vs25man" argument should be a bannable offence. No matter what side you're on, we have heard everything by now.

[eschatological]

Hunters are the least played class in high end raids, if you're to believe WoWprogress's metrics. At least rogues have blade flurry gimmick fights.

[Kuja]

There are now 11 guilds at 5/6 in 25 man difficulty and only DREAM Paragon at 5/6 in 10 man difficulty.

Made me giggle. Makes Paragon seem like they want it easymode

[Salech]

There are now 11 guilds at 5/6 in 25 man difficulty and only DREAM Paragon at 5/6 in 10 man difficulty.

Made me giggle. Makes Paragon seem like they want it easymode

So there is only 1 10 man guild in the world that is 5/6, but 11 25man guilds that are 5/6, that makes the 10 man easymode?, either i'm misreading or 10 man is harder from what you posted, not that i care about world first or the guilds, i just got confused is all.

[Feindy]

it just means its on par, and 10man was easymode. thats why all the other guilds are so behind, they just suck