Blood Legion Heroic Heart of Fear 25 Man World First, All Difficulties Garalon Hotfix

**Suggs** · 2012-11-11, 05:19 PM

Gz Blood Legion for getting WorldFirst Grand Empress Shek'zeer.
Shame your effort gets drowned in fanboyism piss on this website.

**mrwingtipshoes** · 2012-11-11, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Suggs

Gz Blood Legion for getting WorldFirst Grand Empress Shek'zeer.
Shame your effort gets drowned in fanboyism piss on this website.

< Is from US.
< Doesn't care about who wins.
< Confused by your anger.

The EU servers come up after the US therefor the US needs to be adjusted back an equal number of hours.
Paragon is ranked as the #1 guild currently on wow progress.
Heart of Fear and MSV are in the same tier.

**Eleveneleven** · 2012-11-11, 06:19 PM

get shit on rogues...no one likes you

**Feindy** · 2012-11-11, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by MasterHamster

Due to servers coming online at different times, generally it is said that the US has a 24h real time head start, but since Paragon now has 6/6, and they did it in less time, they are considered the true world first. Of course, it's the world first 25man, Paragon do 10s. Queue debate about what's easier -_-

Also, the class rep talk is kinda funny. I don't know why, but somehow "Okay guys, remember that we must have atleast two of each class so it's fair!" sounds a bit ridiculous.

paragon is ranked first on wowprogress, because its a summ of msv+hof. bl is the world first hof, you can disagree, but you cant change it. thats how it is. im from eu btw

**mishal** · 2012-11-11, 06:32 PM

Grats BL on beating both paragon and method.

**Flaks** · 2012-11-11, 07:25 PM

We've already established that the 24h head start for US didn't work out due to buggy boss mechanics that weren't fixed until EU H HoF went up.

Grats to BL. Grats to Paragon as well. Keep the competition alive.

**MasterHamster** · 2012-11-11, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Feindy

paragon is ranked first on wowprogress, because its a summ of msv+hof. bl is the world first hof, you can disagree, but you cant change it. thats how it is. im from eu btw

It's not a matter of wether or not I agree, it's simply that if an EU guild beats the boss 24h earlier than a US guild, it's technically the world first since it took the least amount of time.

**re1gn1te** · 2012-11-11, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by MasterHamster

It's not a matter of wether or not I agree, it's simply that if an EU guild beats the boss 24h earlier than a US guild, it's technically the world first since it took the least amount of time.

Except they had the same amount of time. The "extra" time BL had was completely wasted and void running into a wall until the nerf's came in. Also the method kill was around 18hours after BL.

Paragon will win in the end anyways.

---------- Post added 2012-11-11 at 02:57 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Eryndriela

Paragon take 1st place by cumulating 1st on MSV and 2nd on HoF.
Blood Legion 2nd, with 5th on MSV and 1st on HoF.

What? BL is third.... Method is second

**bloodwulf** · 2012-11-11, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by MasterHamster

It's not a matter of wether or not I agree, it's simply that if an EU guild beats the boss 24h earlier than a US guild, it's technically the world first since it took the least amount of time.

Except even method is saying world 2nd. And it was at best an 18hr difference, and it took at least 18hrs for Method to down it after Blood Legion. This is a tired argument, but just take it from the horses mouth http://methodwow.com/

**Deirhese** · 2012-11-11, 08:22 PM

Why is it when a EU guild gets world first, it's all good but when god forbid a US guild gets world first, there is arguments about timezone differences or that US had content a day early and EU gets "TRUE" world first? I mean some people on here are trying to say the 2nd kill by a EU guild is actually the first but since when has mathematics been debatable? 1 is always 1, not 2. Sorry for the long run on sentence.

**randomuser1337** · 2012-11-11, 08:42 PM

No Rogues, what an surprise

**Eryndriela** · 2012-11-11, 09:32 PM

Method join the band, clean !

**shamental** · 2012-11-11, 10:36 PM

Do you guys remember when world firsts were about who had the best players and the best strat? Hardcore nowadays has become something even unhealthy for a human being, raiders now play 16-18 hours a day to win the race, is insane.

**spyke** · 2012-11-11, 10:41 PM

2 months ago I went to canada on vacation and stayed over a distant family house that my father has there. To my surprise I had a cousin that played wow and his guild was blood legion. I learned a few interesting thing, according to him bl has some game masters on their raid that provide privilege information about encounters and such. I don't know if this is true or not but that's what he said, one thing is for sure he raids for bl that I saw with my own eyes.

**scvd** · 2012-11-11, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Deirhese

Why is it when a EU guild gets world first, it's all good but when god forbid a US guild gets world first, there is arguments about timezone differences or that US had content a day early and EU gets "TRUE" world first? I mean some people on here are trying to say the 2nd kill by a EU guild is actually the first but since when has mathematics been debatable? 1 is always 1, not 2. Sorry for the long run on sentence.

It's a solid argument, it's like you defending a marathon runner having a day head start and winning, but the fella behind him caught up 12 hours ( which technically puts him ahead by 12 hours, if the race were ran at the same time ), but 1 is 1 right? No.

For the record, I care for none of the guilds in mention.

**darisarix** · 2012-11-12, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by Einsz

It is because 10 man raiders are terrible players and they only kill stuff because its so easy on 10 man. Not counting Paragon.

We have 3 facts.

1: Paragon has been leading progression in most tiers for a long time in 25m.

2: They raid 10m now.

3: Their kills have not come significantly ahead or behind 25m guilds (certainly no more so than they did when they raided 25m).

These facts suggest that 10 and 25m difficulty is very close in this tier.

**Archidamos** · 2012-11-12, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by darisarix

We have 3 facts.

1: Paragon has been leading progression in most tiers for a long time in 25m.

2: They raid 10m now.

3: Their kills have not come significantly ahead or behind 25m guilds (certainly no more so than they did when they raided 25m).

These facts suggest that 10 and 25m difficulty is very close in this tier.

That is a logical conclusion following a logical sequence of thoughts.
I can easily agree with it.

Yet, the majority of 10 man raiders do not, and claim that 10 man content's difficulty is overtuned...

**Assisst** · 2012-11-12, 08:24 AM

BIG Gratz and a well desurved one as well to Blood Legion!

**Noobtank** · 2012-11-12, 10:17 AM

Congratulation to Blood Legion for thier world first!

As mmo-champion have not posted anything I am going to put it here aswell. Congratulations is in order for DREAM Paragon aswell, although world second still a 10 man first! And to Method for completing 6/6 Heroic. Grats on completion to all.

**Dreaddevil** · 2012-11-12, 02:24 PM

1 hunter, 1 dk and 1 warr, lol

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