View Poll Results: Do you support Marijuana legalization? (if so how much)

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  • Legalized for everyone and children with parental consent

    62 4.49%
  • Everyone 18+

    612 44.35%
  • Everyone 21+

    466 33.77%
  • Medical use Only

    109 7.90%
  • Against marijuana PERIOD.

    113 8.19%
  • Don't know.

    18 1.30%
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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Legal, 18, taxed. All that jazz.
    The only people who would be willing to pay the tax is people who didn't start smoking it until after it is legalized.
    The rest of us would never accept a mass produced pot as it would be an inferior product, though I guess after 20-30 years people would forget about the good stuff and just buy the mass produced shit because they dunno any better.

  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by skrump View Post
    The only people who would be willing to pay the tax is people who didn't start smoking it until after it is legalized.
    The rest of us would never accept a mass produced pot as it would be an inferior product, though I guess after 20-30 years people would forget about the good stuff and just buy the mass produced shit because they dunno any better.
    Who cares who is "willing" to pay tax?
    Do no harm, but take no shit.

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    In giving people the right to vote at 18 the government acknowledges they are a responsible individual capable of making adult decisions. It's philosophically and legally inconsistent to make the voting and drinking/smoking age different.
    Tell that to sweden where you are a legal adult at the age of 18, but you cant buy liqour until you are 20. With the exception of pubs.

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Rio View Post
    Medical use only. It's illegal for a reason. Those who can't see or understand why it's illegal are probably still in their teenage years wanting to experiment with what's out there.

    I'm 23 and I see no point in smoking it.
    Amazing argument. Why is it that by far the most people who are against legalizing pot can't come up with anything better than "You know why" when it comes to actually supplying something to back their opinions up?

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by sTyLnK View Post
    It's no different than alcohol or cigarettes. Legalize it and tax it or whatever. The big thing is driving though. I'd assume you'd be allowed a very small amount while driving as it can hinder you behind the wheel.
    I think similar laws could/should be applied to driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Tell that to sweden where you are a legal adult at the age of 18, but you cant buy liqour until you are 20. With the exception of pubs.
    How does Sweden having that particular set of laws influence what I said?
    Do no harm, but take no shit.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    How does Sweden having that particular set of laws influence what I said?
    Personal grudge taking a hold of me. Apologies.
    Lets see... if i recall correctly, americans have to be.. 20 or 21 to legally own/watch pornography?
    2-3 years after you can legally fight in a war and vote for the future of your country.
    Would that be a more appropiate correlation?

  8. #248
    If I was supreme dictator: I would make marijuana legal at 21 (smoking it would be still illegal because of the smell for other people and health impacts on the user), voting age raised to 21 (high school graduates are not adults imo, at least at 21 people have had time to work and see the real world or go to some college), cigarettes made iillegal, but not tobacco (tobacco raised to 21 to avoid high school student having access), and last but not least beer/wine lowered to 14 (with adult consent/supervision) or 18 to buy and hard alcohol kept at 21. The point of the drugs being 21 is to hopefully keep it out of schooling where children are often most vulnerable to peer pressure.

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Ituhippi View Post
    Amazing argument. Why is it that by far the most people who are against legalizing pot can't come up with anything better than "You know why" when it comes to actually supplying something to back their opinions up?
    Marijuana users are more likely to have psychological issues. Apparently it's not good for your brain. Also, men who smoke it are more likely to get testicular cancer. It also makes you lazy and it's addictive.

    Good enough reasons to keep it illegal. And yes, "you know why" is actually a good argument imo. It is illegal for a reason, it's drugs.

    Also, I'm too lazy to back up my argument. Just search the web and you'll find the studies that back me up.

  10. #250
    I'd make it 18+ with exceptions for medical reasons.
    There would have to be a way for on the spot detection that police could carry. Like breath tests the police use for alcohol. So that people could not drive while on it.
    Limitations on making in an addictive product or altering it pre-sale. I could just imagine some cigarette company grabbing it and adding something to it for 'flavor' that actually makes people physically addicted. The it becomes just like cigarettes.
    Cannot be smoked in closed off public areas to avoid second-hand smoke, much like the anti-smoking laws my province already has. Must be smoked X yrds away from any entrance.
    Tax it, not nearly as much as cigarettes though.

    All I can think of right now.
    The generalist looks outward; he looks for living principles, knowing full well that such principles change, that they develop. It is to the characteristics of change itself that the mentat-generalist must look. There can be no permanent catalogue of such change, no handbook or manual. You must look at it with as few preconceptions as possible, asking yourself, "Now what is this thing doing?" -Children of Dune

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    It is illegal for a reason, it's drugs.
    It was made illegal for financial reasons (hemp vs cotton).
    Saying its illegal because its drugs is not only silly, its also wrong.
    A drug is a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body or the body of another animal and is not considered a food or exclusively a food.
    Outlaw all drugs shall we? Caffeine will be the first to be outlawed.
    Drink coffee? You are in for a thrill.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Alasuya View Post
    To this date no one has died from direct use of weed. Unlike tobacco and alcohol and even pharma drugs.
    I haven't heard of anyone dying as a direct result from using cocaine or speed either. And I've seen friends stuff themselves with it. Does that mean they aren't harmful? No, having first hand experience with it I know that it affects your heart.

    Likewise, marijuana affects your brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravath View Post
    Saying its illegal because its drugs is not only silly, its also wrong.
    A drug is a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body or the body of another animal and is not considered a food or exclusively a food.
    Cocaine is also a performance enhancing drug. Should we let soldiers use it?

    And I don't drink coffee and I would be fine with the outlaw of caffeine. It's worthless if you ask me.

  13. #253
    I support the legalization of Marijuana at the age of 18, just like other things like getting tobacco and alcohol, getting a driver's license, etc.
    For medical purposes, I would allow it at any age, if proven it was the best medicine, and only in the appropriate doses for the treatment, just like we do in the treatment of heroin and cocaine addictions, and other "heavy" drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Cocaine is also a performance enhancing drug. Should we let soldiers use it?

    And I don't drink coffee and I would be fine with the outlaw of caffeine. It's worthless if you ask me.
    Why are you so concerned with what others use and put into their bodies? As long as it isn't a public health risk, there isn't any problem.
    Do no harm, but take no shit.

  15. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Cocaine is also a performance enhancing drug. Should we let soldiers use it?
    Cocaine is also far, far, FAR more damaging than marijuanas. Not even the UN would put Cocaine and Marijuana together, neither should you.
    And many have died from overdosing on cocaine. Its insane that you even try to deny it.

    Im not sure i should continue, obvious troll and all that.

  16. #256
    I'd say 18+. Much like current laws it's not going to keep kids from having access to it, but it's at least something to help parents out that either don't want there kids smoking that young or just feel they aren't mature enough yet. I have to point out though I would much rather find my kid smoking a bowl, at any age, then drinking/smoking cigarettes.

    Marijuana is by far the healthier alternative to both alcohol and cigarettes, in addition to being largely non-habit forming. It's hard not to compare smoking weed to these two other legal substances because when you do it becomes instantly obvious (to those who can be objective) that it is by far the less harmful choice.

    You don't even have to agree that cigarettes and alcohol should be legal. Even ignoring the obvious and necessary comparisons to alcohol and cigarettes, Marijuana on it's own is an incredibly harmless substance and given the facts should be able to stand on it's own as a legal, taxable substance for recreational use.

  17. #257
    This thread is so full of shit of people who want to fool everyone else that the words misusage and controlled use means the same, no it doesn't fo fuck sake you are not fooling anyone except your ignorant self.

    It's like with World of Warcraft, a highly addicting game but when controlled properly and not letting it take over your life and turn your life to shit, then it can be a really nice, pleasant and contructive experience where you build bridges for life for some. Same shit with marijuana, if you use it to meditate, medicate then it can be a wonder herb and I'll say it again, it's because of idiots misusing it (yes this includes goverments in the way that they misuse their power to manipulate and create a monopoly since marijuana is one of the biggest cash-cows in the world and far bigger than alcohol and tabacco combined), that's when shit hits the fan and as with WoW it because a "drug".

    When will you morons know the difference? Someone who quoted me spoke of personal experiences including his/her uncle, cousin but quess what, it's your family members that are the morons who can not control their intake and most probably was smoking in an instable enviorment where and since marijuana enhances the sense, they became paranoid and did some idiotic shit, it's NOT the herbs fault! It's theirs!

    I can't believe that to this day the sheep of this world swallow and believe everything that they are being fed and without diving into matters and disect things they just blatanly take their word for it, fucking momos.

    Infracted.
    Last edited by Majad; 2012-11-11 at 09:28 PM.

  18. #258
    Short answer:
    No

    Long Answer:
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Yes, Cigarettes are bad and Yes, alcohol is bad. The last thing we need is another drug legalized. It's hard to believe there are that many sad potheads and idiots that Colorado is actually going through with what they are doing. Potheads are intolerable.

    So glad I am not living anywhere near that sad state. At best it's corporate greed waiting to get another stranglehold on society through "regulating" the garbage, at worst it's a bunch of idiot stoners who are just gonna further pull down society and not even have to hide it.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by sTyLnK View Post
    It's no different than alcohol or cigarettes. Legalize it and tax it or whatever. The big thing is driving though. I'd assume you'd be allowed a very small amount while driving as it can hinder you behind the wheel.
    I don't live in a heavily populated big city with congested traffic but if I did I imagine I would have a panic attack if I ever tried to drive in one while stoned.

    Then again I've been driving stoned for the last 20 years and have never gotten so much as a ticket because as a stoner I am paranoid about getting pulled over so unlike most I actually drive like a responsible citizen.

    You do however make a valid argument considering marijuana does increase your reaction time it is more likely that we will not be able to avoid the stupidity of other drivers (like the ones who merge into our lane without warning and those who plan on turning yet don't bother to use their turning signals thus failing to notify the car behind them that they need to slow down which can be a huge issue if their is not proper distance between the two cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killington View Post
    I fully support the legalization of marijuana on the federal level for full recreational AND medical use. The age should be 18+, I believe marijuana to be pretty harmless, it has a multitude of other uses besides getting high and the real crime is that it still remains illegal.
    Short, sweet, and to the point. I couldn't of said it better myself.

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