Gaza rocket fire resumes

[volraths]

Planet - Earth, Country - Israel.

How about you?

oh thats why!! yeah dont blame u for thinking that way

[Masqerader]

Iranians are Persian, not arabs. Just saying.

I didn't say Iran(pretty sure all Arab states for the most part would love to destroy Israel).. but thanks for the history lesson.. I will remember that next time they invade Greece. Just sayin..

[Beavis]

Iron Dome intercepts over Beersheba:

[Wikiy]

TW, Israel does not listen to the USA. Fuck, Obama and Netanyahu hate one another.

Doesn't really matter if they like each other. The US has and still offers unconditional support, in any format, be it militarily, financially, politically, etc., and Israel gladly accepts it. Not that any normal state would refuse that. But yeah, US "donates" pretty scary dollar figures to Israel (though i can't remember specifically how much it is right now), as well as South Korea, and pretty much all their allies in all of the world's hot zones. Kind of reminds you of the Marshall Plan and the Cold War.

I also hate the fact that Israel's government is something like 8 parties. It makes getting anything done even harder than it is in the USA.

And the US' system doesn't make things hard to do? Where democrats and republicans seemingly hate each others' guts? I can't see how things get done there. But even ignoring that, an 8-party system is perfectly normal for real democracies in the world.

[Beavis]

And the US' system doesn't make things hard to do? Where democrats and republicans seemingly hate each others' guts? I can't see how things get done there. But even ignoring that, an 8-party system is perfectly normal for real democracies in the world.

I wonder if the superciliousness of Europeans will ever cease to amaze me...

[xylophone]

Iron Dome intercepts over Beersheba:

[video=youtube;8kAyqbKwd1o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kAyqbKwd1o[video]

That's badass

[Liara]

oh thats why!! yeah dont blame u for thinking that way

Oh, you went with that argument. How original.

[Zhangfei]

Meanwhile Hamas fires rockets.. runs to a building.. shoots the innocent people inside and tries to blame it on Israel air strikes.. i can spread bogus propaganda too

So no argument then? Argumentum ad absurdum? Avoid, deflect, DO NOT ENGAGE?

[Masqerader]

So no argument then? Argumentum ad absurdum? Avoid, deflect, DO NOT ENGAGE?

whatever you say.. keep trying to sell us that militant Palestine groups are the victims.

[habitsbreaker]

Although this is clearly off-topic. I haven't seen any news recently saying that Iran attacked their own people

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/iran...n-iran-amnesty.

and about the Syria part i will say it again your Sectarianism wont allow you to see the truth.

[Valort]

So no argument then? Argumentum ad absurdum? Avoid, deflect, DO NOT ENGAGE?

You have no arguments, only repeated anti-Israeli propaganda. Come back when you learn to think for yourself, instead of deflecting anything that doesn't fit into your narrow and twisted view of reality.

You keep shouting that we're systematically destroying the Palestinian people. I beg to differ. Israel could, in less than 10 minutes, stop all electricity, running water, medical supplies and food going into the Gaza strip. Not to mention carpet-bomb the sweet fuck outta that land and turn it into a parking lot. Now, that would be a genocide.
On the other hand, allowing them to enter our country, despite them being as classified as enemies most of the time, for work, medical help and even for traveling, to, you know, visit their families in the West Bank and such, giving them millions of dollars every year to build, rebuild and improve (Which, sadly, is used for all the wrong things instead) and overall giving them as many chances as possible to get their shit together... But of course, you simply decide to ignore those facts, since they simply don't fit into your distorted view of reality.

Argumentum ad absurdum? You're the master of it, it seems. Or simply absurd.

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whatever you say.. keep trying to sell us that militant Palestine groups are the victims.

You know what is sad? They really are victims. Victims of their own leaders. People who preach lies and force innocents into terrorism. People who brainwash children from very early ages into having the same twisted view of reality.
They are victims, not because of Israel, but because of their own.

[habitsbreaker]

giving them millions of dollars every year to build, rebuild and improve (Which, sadly, is used for all the wrong things instead)

who are you ,and when did you give them money

[Valort]

who are you ,and when did you give them money

"Israel advanced 300 million shekels (nearly 80 million US dollars) to the Palestinian Authority to help the PA pay salaries before the Muslim Eid al-Adha.

(Communicated by the Middle Eastern Economic Affairs Dept, MFA)

Israel advanced 300 million shekels (nearly 80 million US dollars) to the Palestinian Authority (PA) on Thursday, October 18, to help the PA pay salaries before the Muslim Eid al-Adha (Feast of the Sacrifice) festival.

This is the third time in the last few months that Israel has advanced money to the PA to enable them to pay in full the salaries owed to its employees. In July, on the eve of Ramadan, NIS 180 million was transferred while NIS 250 million was transferred on September 11."

And do you know what they do with that money? Here is a nice example:

nearly 6% of the Palestinian Authority’s budget is going to reward Palestinians convicted of political violence and murder as well as the families of suicide bombers. Some of these salaries have been part of long-standing practice going back to 2003, however according to the report, earlier last year, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad tripled some of the salaries in question.

[Zecora]

And do you know what they do with that money? Here is a nice example:

Sources...?

[Domiku]

Being totally honest here I just want them to go all out war on each other and get this done with. 1 side wins and runs/owns if you like the other combining the two. Be less headache and death in the long run. I don't want to sound a dick by saying this but they been at this crap for ages now it needs to stop, talking is not working and wont work a war is needed to get it done with and I hope it happens soon. I just hope no more civilians have to die or live in fear every day because of it happening or not happening.

[habitsbreaker]

And do you know what they do with that money? Here is a nice example:

what? are you saying the PA send some of this money to hamas?

[Valort]

Sources...?

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Humanitari...1-Oct-2012.htm

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/1110...ty-budget-goes

Sorry, tried to find it in pro-Palestinian news pages as well, but I guess such news don't fit their agenda.

I bet half the people will deny those sources are credible without thinking twice, simply because they don't have Al-Jezeera stamped on them.

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what? are you saying the PA send some of this money to hamas?

Yes. Since they are paying salaries to Hamas members incarcerated in Israel, you could say they are giving money to Hamas.

[habitsbreaker]

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Humanitari...1-Oct-2012.htm

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/1110...ty-budget-goes

Sorry, tried to find it in pro-Palestinian news pages as well, but I guess such news don't fit their agenda.

I bet half the people will deny those sources as credible without thinking twice, simply because they don't have Al-Jezeera stamped on them.

and you want me to trust an Israeli source ?

[Hif]

Oh god the amount of propaganda in this thread and the blatant lying. Like the Israeli government giving the Palestinian Authority. Blatant lie. It wasn't a donation or a gift. It was money owed by the Israeli government to the Palestinian people for transit duties on their exported goods.

You can't give money that isn't yours as a gift. But then again when you claim land which isn't yours as your, you can do the same with money that isn't yours.

[Valort]

and you want me to trust an Israeli source ?

I just said, there is no reason for the blind-by-choice to open their eyes.
I don't expect anyone who is blinded by hatred to trust common sense either.