--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
Hey look! American tax dollars at work! -_-
Are you assuming that every Arab who's complained about their land being taken doesn't have the deed to their property? In some cases, I'm sure that assumption would hold true, but in a great number of cases, the Arabs do in fact have the deeds, just they are ignored, or some law is written specifically targeting the Palestinians to give the government or settlers permission to take it. Here's a recent story about development in East Jerusalem.
And I said that this is a misconception. It is just that philosophy is tied to both belief (as outlined in scriptures) and actions based on such beliefs. So to associate scriptures with anything (say, idolization of murdering people with different views) would be tantamount to saying actions are derived from the ideals taken from these scriptures (aka murdering said people). I was saying that these scriptures - and hence the religions based on these scriptures - are more about peaceful coexistence, despite the presence of individuals with conflicting viewpoints.
Glad that this is clear.
I am aware of that tribe as well as the genocide, that you quote. Muhammad had nothing to do with the genocide of that tribe. In fact, he had proposed a peace treaty with that tribe and 2 other tribes.
Lets keep the religious references out if this thread. I have made clear what I wanted to say and I do not want this to spiral into an argument. Thanks.
Removed USA backing of Israel and let the true balance of power emerge.
Re-establish the pre-1967 borders, and most notably, after Syria sorts itself out give back the Golan Heights (contrary to what you may have heard, Asssad's regime and the Free Syrian Army are as bad as each other).
Stop Apartheid in Israel, bring down the wall.
As a final solution, all move to the USA.
1. pre-1967 borders would have been fine... however, the arab states didn't see it that way and attacked, again, and lost. Why should the victor give a damn thing to the aggressors?
2. the wall exists to keep cowards from mindlessly blowing themselves up while targeting Israeli citizens.... I bet if the suicide bombings and rocket attacks stopped that Israel MIGHT consider relaxing the wall.
--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
Last edited by mmoc68224f08ff; 2012-11-16 at 09:22 AM.
you mean after depriving them of their property, taking it from arabs and giving it to their own people, walling them in a ghetto and starving them, depriving them of supplies and medicines Israel will eventually implement a final solution? that sounds familiar..
ofc the fact that big gas deposits have been found off the gaza coast have nothing to do with any of it. meanwhile children on both sides are killed and maimed.
Last edited by soulcrusher; 2012-11-16 at 09:25 AM.
Again, lay off the religion talk.
Enough said.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM0DjOC74zI
Let me ask the following question.
How can you justify the suppression of the entire Palestinian people and not just Gaza.
I can understand (I competently disagree with the opinion but ok) that the extremist in Israel can justify the suppression of the people in Gaza (lets just all admit it is in fact the biggest prison in the world).
But at the same time how can you justify the suppression of the Palestinians in Israel and in the West Bank. Even if the West Bank has more to go for compared to Gaza it is still in some ways a large prison (limited movement = prison). And lets not forget to mention the demolishing of Palestinians homes and building homes for Jewish settlers.
A few years ago I've read a article about how Palestinians in Israel got removed from their homes (some which pre-dates the state of Israel) and at the very land a park was going to be build.
Israel creates his own enemies