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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    What about relaxing the work requirement (looking for a job, having a job, etc) to receive these benefits?
    What about it? You want them to be gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Texas won't leave the union, but even if it did, Mexico isn't exactly the type of country to want to annex anything anymore. It's just not their style, even if their military was a match for what Texas could muster.
    Theoretical question...
    To my knowledge, every military base of the USA is Federal Property.
    Now, if in theory Texas would break free.. All federal property within Texas could be simply destroyed by the US military. I doubt that they would just abandon the bases..
    And when I think of it... Texas oil.... I don't know that now either, but I can see that there's a high possibility of oil lands that are property of the USA and not state, or privately owned.

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    Sign this petition to Keep the UNITED STATES united and remove Washington D.C. from the United states.

    http://wh.gov/XgYu

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    None of the big cities in Texas would want to leave the union. Austin would certainly fight it. Maybe they could break off southwest but well over half the state wouldn't go for it. People don't realize that over 25 million people live in this state so a few backwoods rednecks and people who don't like the state but live somewhere else signing a petition means nothing.
    Last edited by delus; 2012-11-14 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    What about it? You want them to be gone?
    I believe he is asking the very thing the Obama admin did, by giving the states that asked more control of how to distribute welfare and low income programs, under the permission to decrease the numbers of recipients. You know that thing, the Romney camp twisted around, claiming Obama gives out more welfare, by lowering the requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    What about it? You want them to be gone?
    You should at least have to go to a couple interviews proving your actually trying to gain employment. There is no reason for these people to ever go to work, they will make the same amount of money for not going to work.

    "claiming Obama gives out more welfare, by lowering the requirements. "

    47 million now on welfare (way up) and he did lower the requirements with no requirements...

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    You can't have it both ways. Believing that there are so few jobs people have given up looking for work and thinking people are too lazy to find work are incongruent. You can't be too lazy to find something that is supposedly not there for those who are looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    You should at least have to go to a couple interviews proving your actually trying to gain employment. There is no reason for these people to ever go to work, they will make the same amount of money for not going to work.
    What do you think the unemployment rate is? Is this due to Obama costing us jobs or due to Obama making people not look for jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delus View Post
    None of the big cities in Texas would want to leave the union. Austin would certainly fight it. Maybe they could break off southwest but well over half the state wouldn't go for it. People don't realize that over 25 million people live in this state so a few backwoods rednecks and people who don't like the state but live somewhere else signing a petition means nothing.
    There was a Rasmussen Poll in Texas in 2009, right after Perry made remarks about how Texas could think it's position over blabla....

    The poll shown 75% of the questioned people did not approve of secession.

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    There isnt a both ways in this situation. You dont have to have a job, you just have to go on a couple interviews every month.

    Allowing people to just stop looking for work benefits our society how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    You should at least have to go to a couple interviews proving your actually trying to gain employment. There is no reason for these people to ever go to work, they will make the same amount of money for not going to work.

    "claiming Obama gives out more welfare, by lowering the requirements. "

    47 million now on welfare (way up) and he did lower the requirements with no requirements...
    The countries economy goes to shits, and welfare goes up....
    That's as logic as it possibly gets....
    Who gets bitten in the ass first? The one that sits on comfortable savings, or the one that barely scrapes by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    So your saying the "Our ruling" is inaccurate?

    Internet chatter claiming that Obama gave cell phones to welfare recipients contained a tiny grain of truth: The federal government does have a program to subsidize phone service for low-income people. That program, though, existed long before Obama became president.

    So obama is president and people on welfare/low income qualify for a free cell phone but the original statement only contains a tiny grain of truth? Just saying, if they cant understand this they really shouldnt be checking facts.


    Hehe... The claim was that Obama was offering cell phones to get people to vote for him. The claim was shown to be false. The claim was made by a biased source, Adam Putnam. You claimed to just skim the Forbes article because it was "really biased" so I reminded you not only of the source, "from the left," but also a biased claim you had made in return.
    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    Factor in how much obama has spent on the people who voted for him, the numbers arent even close. Been buying votes with ebt cards and obama phones for the last 4 years.
    So you now attempt to retroactively alter the claim? Come on, you can do better than that.
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    everybody wishes it would. But it wont. Before its over and done with the US will be like nazi germany for a little while. Without the genocide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    And when I think of it... Texas oil.... I don't know that now either, but I can see that there's a high possibility of oil lands that are property of the USA and not state, or privately owned.
    The land in Texas is mostly owned by the petroleum industry, however all the off shore oil is on federally controlled "property". The Oil companies lease the right from the federal government to drill with in 50 miles of the coast line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadow View Post
    So with Obama's victory, people had enough sh17, since they're expecting things to go down hill even more.
    US is falling apart.

    Your thoughts?
    It makes me laugh how stupid people really are, how do you think Texas could be where it is WITHOUT the rest of the USA? Oh yeah, they would be Mexico...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatblast View Post
    everybody wishes it would. But it wont. Before its over and done with the US will be like nazi germany for a little while. Without the genocide.
    help me here. I don't get it... what are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRobin View Post
    So you now attempt to retroactively alter the claim? Come on, you can do better than that.
    Are you saying people on ebt and obama phones voted for romney? Are you also saying that pandering to them didnt affect their vote? Come on man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    The land in Texas is mostly owned by the petroleum industry, however all the off shore oil is on federally controlled "property". The Oil companies lease the right from the federal government to drill with in 50 miles of the coast line.
    Mineral rights often aren't the same as the property owners.

    As for the offshore oil in the Gulf, if Texas did become its own country, it would have territorial waters like any other country, and gain access to the whole Texas Gulf Coast when it comes to oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oneleg View Post
    It makes me laugh how stupid people really are, how do you think Texas could be where it is WITHOUT the rest of the USA? Oh yeah, they would be Mexico...
    Yep, someone built that interstate leading to texas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    Are you saying people on ebt and obama phones voted for romney? Are you also saying that pandering to them didnt affect their vote? Come on man
    I will bring up my Southern family again, half of them are on some form of state assistance. All of them voted for Rmoney except my one Lesbian cousin she and her partner voted for Ron Paul.

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