Now I have read and heard of people working the angles, so to speak, to maximize their benefits. Like min-maxers in a mumorpuger. I've also read and heard of folks who were outright engaged in fraud to get a lot more than they should have. However, I have seen people that the various safety net programs saved from not only a loss of nutrition and shelter. But also a loss of hope and lost potential for a better future.
I've also learned what happens to regimes that do not care enough for their populace. Even the relatively minor percentage that may honestly delude themselves into thinking that they are inherently owed something, or believe everything is anyone's fault but their own, matters. We have learned, at great cost, what happens when we place ourselves to far above our fellow man. If we do not care about them. Then they will have little to no reason to care about us.
If the price we must pay to help as many as we can with food, medicine, and hope, when they need it. Especially for the children. Is for those selfish enough to place themselves above their fellow man, sometimes taking advantage of it? Then that is a price I have, and will, continue to help pay. The world has changed and will continue too. As FDR once put it:
So, it is less a matter of whether I think it is fair or not and more a matter of whether I think helping my fellow man is right or not. Does that answer your question?Security was attained in the earlier days through the interdependence of members of families upon each other and of the families within a small community upon each other. The complexities of great communities and of organized industry make less real these simple means of security. Therefore, we are compelled to employ the active interest of the Nation as a whole through government in order to encourage a greater security for each individual who composes it... This seeking for a greater measure of welfare and happiness does not indicate a change in values. It is rather a return to values lost in the course of our economic development and expansion...
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Its not realistic and not going to happen. People that are signing the petition with hopes or beliefs that it will happen are naive. It is more symbolic. People are angry and are reaching out to the government to react in the most direct way they can, they want answers. It makes them feel like their voices are heard, no big deal.
What is really sad is there are some very important issues being petitioned which will most likely be overshadowed by these.
And as far as I know the biggest response to a petition given by the White House was about the White House brew recipe....yeah, really good job there guys.
Thats a good point but in all fairness, from my experience, most blue states have higher local and sin (thinking NY and Cali here) taxes as well as toll roads, which most Red States do not have. Personally I view that as punishing their working class, mostly middle class population; especially toll roads. Think about it, who has to travel everyday? People getting back and forth to work? Same for taxes, those receiving "assistance" don't pay taxes on assisted goods like food, who does? Middle class working America right? Kinda Ironic, IMO which states are the Blue (for the working class) states and which ones are Red (for the top 2%); talk about hypocrisy.However State Aid covers a lot of different things to include Hi-ways, Farm subsidies, and a large host of social programs. States like California can pay for them selves but many Red States need federal aid to pay for what they have. The point is that the Red states claim welfare costs the country too much but then take more money from the government than the blue states. It's the hypocrisy that people in the blue states are pointing out.[COLOR="red"]
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We Petition the Obama Administration To...require any musical arrangement with a cowbell instrument must increase the intensity of cowbell by at least 25%
What do you guys think?
Would you consider their benefits "excessive" considering they are eating better than your own family? Im not saying abolish them, im saying more restrictions that makes real money worth more than an ebt card when i get lunch.
Honestly it just pisses me off that they get a free sub and i have to pay for mine. Id get double meat and cheese too if i could afford it
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Are reforms needed? Of course they are. Just about anything can be improved. However, like with Obamacare, the alternative was to do pretty much nothing. Better an imperfect world than no world at all, so to speak.
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When Republicans lose, Democrats cry. The complainers are called non-America, or non-patriotic.
When Democrats win, Republicans cry. The complainers are called whiners. The difference is that the complainers call themselves patriots and say, naturally, the county is in immediate danger of falling apart.
Get over it, Republicans. Obama won and your party's xenophobic race-baiting strategies don't work any longer. Sucks for you. Maybe you shouldn't be so insane and you'll get non-white-christian-older-men's votes.
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Who is angry?
I am finding the right-wing freak out fucking hilarious at the moment.
Grove Norquist calling Romney a "poopy head" and Karl Rove throwing a hissy fit election night live on Faux News took the cake.
If they leave than they can take some of the debt that the entire world owes everyone. Let's see them survive after one month after separation.
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