USA falling apart?

[chadwix]

Well the "devil is in the details," so to speak. I have little confidence in the proclamations from either side of the aisle. Because they both have many reasons to exaggerate and fabricate. I'm 41 years old and I've been quite wealthy as well as dirt poor. I've lived in condos and I've lived on the street. I've lived in various places, from Washington to Georgia and from Texas to Minnesota. The largess you and some others imply is somehow the norm? I've never witnessed.

Now I have read and heard of people working the angles, so to speak, to maximize their benefits. Like min-maxers in a mumorpuger. I've also read and heard of folks who were outright engaged in fraud to get a lot more than they should have. However, I have seen people that the various safety net programs saved from not only a loss of nutrition and shelter. But also a loss of hope and lost potential for a better future.

I've also learned what happens to regimes that do not care enough for their populace. Even the relatively minor percentage that may honestly delude themselves into thinking that they are inherently owed something, or believe everything is anyone's fault but their own, matters. We have learned, at great cost, what happens when we place ourselves to far above our fellow man. If we do not care about them. Then they will have little to know reason to care about us.

If the price we must pay to help as many as we can with food, medicine, and hope, when they need it. Especially for the children. Is for those selfish enough to place themselves above their fellow man, sometimes taking advantage of it? Then that is a price I have, and will, continue to help pay. The world has changed and will continue too. As FDR once put it:


So, it is less a matter of whether I think it is fair or not and more a matter of whether I think helping my fellow man is right or not. Does that answer your question?

Thank you for your reply, i considered you a troll at first but that was one heck of a post.

Would you consider their benefits "excessive" considering they are eating better than your own family? Im not saying abolish them, im saying more restrictions that makes real money worth more than an ebt card when i get lunch.

Honestly it just pisses me off that they get a free sub and i have to pay for mine. Id get double meat and cheese too if i could afford it

[SirRobin]

Thank you for your reply, i considered you a troll at first but that was one heck of a post.

Would you consider their benefits "excessive" considering they are eating better than your own family? Im not saying abolish them, im saying more restrictions that makes real money worth more than an ebt card when i get lunch.

Honestly it just pisses me off that they get a free sub and i have to pay for mine.

Are they though? Really? Again, a claim does not automatically a truth make. Whether it is through the NY Times, or FOX News. Nor does a potential exploit mean it is a common one. I've known folks who qualified for aid but refused to apply. Thinking themselves above it or feeling it unneeded. Even some with children. I do not consider the benefits excessive. I consider the behavior, of those who misuse or abuse those benefits, to be excessive. Again, the answer is not bigger government or smaller government. The answer is better government.

Are reforms needed? Of course they are. Just about anything can be improved. However, like with Obamacare, the alternative was to do pretty much nothing. Better an imperfect world than no world at all, so to speak.

[KrazyK923]

When Republicans lose, Democrats cry. The complainers are called non-America, or non-patriotic.

When Democrats win, Republicans cry. The complainers are called whiners. The difference is that the complainers call themselves patriots and say, naturally, the county is in immediate danger of falling apart.

Get over it, Republicans. Obama won and your party's xenophobic race-baiting strategies don't work any longer. Sucks for you. Maybe you shouldn't be so insane and you'll get non-white-christian-older-men's votes.

[Riidii]

When Republicans lose, Democrats cry. The complainers are called non-America, or non-patriotic.

When Democrats win, Republicans cry. The complainers are called whiners. The difference is that the complainers call themselves patriots and say, naturally, the county is in immediate danger of falling apart.

Get over it, Republicans. Obama won and your party's xenophobic race-baiting strategies don't work any longer. Sucks for you. Maybe you shouldn't be so insane and you'll get non-white-christian-older-men's votes.

So angry.

"Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

-Yoda

[KrazyK923]

Who is angry?

I am finding the right-wing freak out fucking hilarious at the moment.

Grove Norquist calling Romney a "poopy head" and Karl Rove throwing a hissy fit election night live on Faux News took the cake.

[AlmightyGerkin]

If they leave than they can take some of the debt that the entire world owes everyone. Let's see them survive after one month after separation.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Who is angry?

I am finding the right-wing freak out fucking hilarious at the moment.

Grove Norquist calling Romney a "poopy head" and Karl Rove throwing a hissy fit election night live on Faux News took the cake.

Democrats: Trollface
Republicans: Rageface

[LilSaihah]

Democrats: Trollface
Republicans: Rageface

Implication that democrats are more interested in pissing off republicans than actually running the country well intended?

[Shadowbayne]

Shall I post a picture of where most slave traders' home ports were? Yeah, vast majority in New England.

---------- Post added 2012-11-11 at 06:49 PM ----------



Because kids can't learn Math without an iPad.

Post all you want doesnt change history... south was for slavery and that poster is right. the majority of the states that are the most butt hurt are racial states.... not to say racism is not every where , but i was born and raised down south and the majority of these people are raised racist as hell. Some open but more of them are closet bigots because the world turned and its not PC to be racist anymore atleast not openly. Fact remain that they are pissed because a black mans in office. Where was the republican out cry over people "living off the government breast" during bushs term. Where was the major out cry over abortion as well. It was there just not nearly as loud. Put a black man in office and suddenly OMG ITS SCOCIALISM AND OPPRESSION OF RELIGIOUS RIGHTS AND HES FOR KILLING BABIES. BLAH BLAH BLAH. Fact remains <and a fact that most republicans refuse to admit> is that this ball and chain around america leg was put in place along time ago. Its just in the past 4 years that we really felt it , but what else can you expect when your former presidents running 2 wars, and spending on them like theres no tomorrow. Bush may not have made the mess on his own but he was the straw the broke the camels back figurativly speaking.

[Sunseeker]

Implication that democrats are more interested in pissing off republicans than actually running the country well intended?

Turnabout is fair play.

[LilSaihah]

Turnabout is fair play.

Those in glass houses should not throw stones!

[stumpy]

Those in glass houses should not throw stones!

Winner takes all.

[LilSaihah]

Winner takes all.

Never... Run with scissors?

[Linkedblade]

Never... Run with scissors?

Don't stick sensitive bodyparts into beehives?

[obdigore]

Don't stick sensitive bodyparts into beehives?

He who strikes first laughs last?

[Sunseeker]

Those in glass houses should not throw stones!

Fortunately I live in a house made out of stones. It's both durable and provides plenty of ammo.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

He who strikes first laughs last?

Seek not the wickedness of your neighbors lest it find purchase in your own home.

[obdigore]

Seek not the wickedness of your neighbors lest it find purchase in your own home.

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day?

[Sunseeker]

Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day?

Confucius say: Man who go through airport terminal sideways going to Bangkok.

[obdigore]

Confucius say: Man who go through airport terminal sideways going to Bangkok.

"The Problem with the world is that the intelligent people
are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence."
-Charles Bukowski