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  1. #101
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    I don't get upset when I have to get off of WoW for something irl, I don't enjoy it BUT I don't get flustered about it. I have been playing since '07 and have never played a game like it, every game I've played has been 3 months and I'm bored with it already. WoW has kept me perfectly happy for nearly 6 years so the fact that it keeps me interested I guess. Oh, yeah! and those 9 other players in my guild that rely on me to bring the deeps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issalice View Post
    When my fiancee and I first met one of the things he told me right off the bat was the he played WoW. I thought that is was kinda weird he felt the need to disclose this. I wasn't familiar with it at all, and didn't really care. I would rather have him spend his time doing something like that than going to the bars every night and getting wasted like some of our friends. Then he moved in. I remember wondering how long it would be before WoW died, and how amazing it would be. I would have my bf back! lol

    He literally worked, slept, went to school, did homework and played. All his free time was spent in WoW. We had a few fights, a few talks. Finally I just bought my own copy and played with him. He still plays more than I would like, but he is a great guy and deserves his leisure time. And I can always log in and annoy him to death with my nooby questions that he still thinks I am serious about ;p
    I wish my girlfriend looked at WoW like you do... -_-

    Back in my day, we killed bosses 400 times a day...uphill both ways...in the snow...and we fucking liked it. In related news, I hear that uninstalling WoW completely from your hard drive and then reinstalling it resets your RNG numbers. -septor

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    Addiction - enjoyment/routine isn't part of it. Just because your on a raiding schedule along side your football practise which also has a schedule doesn't mean anyone is addicted.

    I've played this game for years along side my RL activities. Why? Well, I'm a gamer and there aren't that many other MMORPG's out there that interest me, but if WoW didn't exist I would be playing something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SooFaded View Post
    I cancelled my sub today. Going to try my hardest to stay away from the game. Browsing this forum probably isn't the smartest thing to do I suppose.
    Actually, it probably is because there's nothing but WoW bashing going on, however this thread might be bad for you because we're talking about our addictions to WoW lmao!

    Back in my day, we killed bosses 400 times a day...uphill both ways...in the snow...and we fucking liked it. In related news, I hear that uninstalling WoW completely from your hard drive and then reinstalling it resets your RNG numbers. -septor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paraloser View Post
    I am curious to see what the community believes an addiction to WoW would be...
    You basically hit rock bottom when you try to shove a remote up your ass ...

    10 points for the person linking the youtube vid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terridon View Post
    A fairly simple and good definition in my oppinion about to weather your addicted or not:

    Three of the following symptoms suggest abuse, five or more addiction:

    -Increasing amounts of time spent on Internet

    -Failed attempts to control behavior

    -Heightened euphoria while on Internet

    -Craving more time on Internet, restless when not there

    -Neglecting family and friends

    -Lying to others about use

    -Internet interfering with job and school

    -Feeling guilty or ashamed of behavior

    -Changes in sleep patterns

    -Weight changes, backaches, headaches, carpal tunnel

    -Withdrawl from other activities
    I'm literally all of these except for the 2nd to last.

    Back in my day, we killed bosses 400 times a day...uphill both ways...in the snow...and we fucking liked it. In related news, I hear that uninstalling WoW completely from your hard drive and then reinstalling it resets your RNG numbers. -septor

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzow View Post
    Enjoying yourself is not an addiction, the sooner people accept that the better
    Or just in denial about your addiction.

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    In a way I almost wish that I never discovered WoW...even that thought scares me even though it's true. I am definitely a "half-blown addict" I'd say, not fully but about halfway there, gimme a couple years!

    Back in my day, we killed bosses 400 times a day...uphill both ways...in the snow...and we fucking liked it. In related news, I hear that uninstalling WoW completely from your hard drive and then reinstalling it resets your RNG numbers. -septor

  8. #108
    I've been very addicted to this game from vanilla to mid wotlk, though I denied it all the time. After this period I only played a few months and MOP beta for a little bit, yet I still regularly visit MMO to read patch notes and stuff. The thing is, it doesn't really interest me anymore, it's more the lack of something else to do on the internet that is more fun to kill my time while waiting to go out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumadre80 View Post
    Actually, it probably is because there's nothing but WoW bashing going on, however this thread might be bad for you because we're talking about our addictions to WoW lmao!
    Ye well, everyone with a bit of intellect can see that the people bashing WoW on these forums are merely bad players. Very often the bashing is nonconstructive, very poorly written and arguments made are as much of an argument as throwing poo to your boss because you want to earn more. In other words, I am sure most of the bashing that happens on these forums is quickly disregarded as bad/whiny players who chose to come to the forums because they are too bad to play the game for real.

  9. #109
    I would define it as an addiction when you regularly miss important RL things for it. Taking off work for expansions is one thing, but say you call in sick just to sit home and play all day? Addiction. Skip thanksgiving dinner for wow? Addiction. Stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilananazz View Post
    That's like saying the same thing about alcohol and drug addiction.

    It may not be physiological, but as many in this thread stated, addiction can be psychological as well and have nothing to do with "weak mind" or inability to prioritize. You truly have to be a fool to believe that some people just choose to not care about school, friends, family and their life just to play a game. There are many factors that could lead to psychological addiction, such as bad conditions, health or social integration in real life.

    The addiction is in the head and it forces you to keep playing, keep getting better, not letting down your guildmates and so on. Some people can handle things like alcohol, cigarettes and drugs just fine but end up having a psychological addiction to something instead. Others are the other way around. What really baffles me is how many people in this thread that are denying that you can be addicted to WoW. Either a lot of people are, in fact, addicted to some degree but in denial or just don't really have a good idea about it.

    Why don't you just say "grow up and get your prioritizes right" to someone who have a alcohol addiction?
    I guess you're just to immature (or in denial?) to actually realize that the mind can be a powerful tool that we don't always control.

    I had addiction all over my family. Drug and alcohol is riddled in my family. But those family members, were selfish, didn't care about other people, like their family, or their loved ones. They turned to drug and alcohol to fulfill a empty aspect of their life, because they are so selfish and ignorant to the fact that life is not perfect and now they are either addicted or dead.

    Ive seen the ugly side to addictions. They start in (my opinion) from being selfish and weak minded.

    I was playing heavily before the semester started this year, It was summer time, id wake up, work out, hang out with people, and at night play till like 3 am. But when school started and i realized the work load couldn't uphold wow i quit like a adult would. A fully mature adult realizes his prioritizes and quits when he should.
    I wasn't lazy and tell myself "oh i don't wanna quit, i wanna play more! Fuck homework!" No i got my shit together and grew up.

    People hide behind that "addicted to wow shit" because they don't want to realize they are selfish and only care for themselves. Like i said earlier its just a trend in our modern American civilization where everything is a curable addiction...

    Pay money here, take these pills and poof your fixed. Shit doesn't work like that. People become "addicted" because they just want to slap a name onto something they CAN fix but don't WANT to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyanide View Post
    >addicted to weed
    ok
    /facepalm

    Ugh, I hate this convo. You can be addicted to weed, but Please realize the difference between a physical and psychological addiction.
    Video game, gambling, porn, weed, and other types like this fall into psychological addictions.

    Physical addiction: chemical dependency that physically reacts with your body.
    Psychological addiction: emotional dependency on a process or action.
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  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricen View Post
    I had addiction all over my family. Drug and alcohol is riddled in my family. But those family members, were selfish, didn't care about other people, like their family, or their loved ones. They turned to drug and alcohol to fulfill a empty aspect of their life, because they are so selfish and ignorant to the fact that life is not perfect and now they are either addicted or dead.

    Ive seen the ugly side to addictions. They start in (my opinion) from being selfish and weak minded.

    I was playing heavily before the semester started this year, It was summer time, id wake up, work out, hang out with people, and at night play till like 3 am. But when school started and i realized the work load couldn't uphold wow i quit like a adult would. A fully mature adult realizes his prioritizes and quits when he should.
    I wasn't lazy and tell myself "oh i don't wanna quit, i wanna play more! Fuck homework!" No i got my shit together and grew up.

    People hide behind that "addicted to wow shit" because they don't want to realize they are selfish and only care for themselves. Like i said earlier its just a trend in our modern American civilization where everything is a curable addiction...

    Pay money here, take these pills and poof your fixed. Shit doesn't work like that. People become "addicted" because they just want to slap a name onto something they CAN fix but don't WANT to fix it.
    To me it just sounds like you had a bad experience with one thing and then push it on to the other. I'm sorry that your family have a history of alcohol and drug addiction, but just because your family members didn't have the maturity or personality you can't draw everyone under the same line. People hide behind the screen for many reasons.

    just because YOU didn't have a addiction, or developed one, it dos not mean others can't. As stated many times before. it's a psychological thing. Read this:

    Physical addiction: chemical dependency that physically reacts with your body.
    Psychological addiction: emotional dependency on a process or action.
    being an adult, stop playing and such just is not a factor, despite what you think. It might be your opinion, but it's been proven countless times that WoW, just as much as any other game, can cause an addiction.

    Pay money here, take these pills and poof your fixed. Shit doesn't work like that. People become "addicted" because they just want to slap a name onto something they CAN fix but don't WANT to fix it.
    If we go by this logic, then nothing is a addiction and addictions can't exist. You can cure any addiction. Even drugs, alcohol and nicotine. But people are just to lazy to do it. Right?

  13. #113
    I'm addicted in the sense I crave to play/read for a couple hours daily, but if something more interesting than the norm comes up I don't mind ignoring WoW for awhile.

    In the long run if WoW suddenly failed to exist I would be fine too. Now 3 or 4 years ago... I might of needed some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulathar View Post
    I'm addicted in the sense I crave to play/read for a couple hours daily, but if something more interesting than the norm comes up I don't mind ignoring WoW for awhile.

    In the long run if WoW suddenly failed to exist I would be fine too. Now 3 or 4 years ago... I might of needed some help.
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  15. #115
    Well this is my take on addiction to Warcraft.



    I think it is though however when you start feeling ashamed and guilty about playing that you know you have some problem, prioritizing your life around the game and not around what really matters (education/jobs/social/relationships). I think in terms of gaming it is very difficult to work out if you just enjoy something or if it really does take over, there have been games other than WoW which I have played a lot but never felt addicted to, I think MMO's are unique in the sense that they are becoming just like social networks in some regards, I wonder how many people reading this has Facebook tabbed or something?

    I could go on, but i'll keep this short!

    I am quite interested in this topic too, as I plan on making more films tackling this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilananazz View Post
    To me it just sounds like you had a bad experience with one thing and then push it on to the other. I'm sorry that your family have a history of alcohol and drug addiction, but just because your family members didn't have the maturity or personality you can't draw everyone under the same line. People hide behind the screen for many reasons.

    just because YOU didn't have a addiction, or developed one, it dos not mean others can't. As stated many times before. it's a psychological thing. Read this:



    being an adult, stop playing and such just is not a factor, despite what you think. It might be your opinion, but it's been proven countless times that WoW, just as much as any other game, can cause an addiction.


    If we go by this logic, then nothing is a addiction and addictions can't exist. You can cure any addiction. Even drugs, alcohol and nicotine. But people are just to lazy to do it. Right?
    I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic. If we continue we will keep running in circles and it will be pretty pointless for us. I think its fair to say, agree to disagree sir? Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilananazz View Post
    As the quote suggest, gaming addiction is very much a real thing.

    No, actually what it suggests is that some people think of addictions in a certain way and try to apply it to certain behaviours.

    Fact remains though that researchers have failed miserable in their studies of internet/gaming addiction which to me suggests that their definition and conceptualization is way off. What I think you have to realize is that the "definition" of addiction is nothing else than a definition someone MADE UP, because it suited them at that point and seemed to adequately explained a phenomenon they witnessed. It has no bearing on reality, the utility and usefulness of the concept is the only thing that counts. Addiction as a concept has been argued to do more harm than good, in fact. Partly becase of what Ricen was saying, that is actually disempowers people and lays the blame elsewhere. It creates this notion of the helpless addict who is subject to evil external forces and therefore has no choice but to continue taking the drug.

    I'll tell you what's for certain though: Despite finding many associations between vulnerability factors or psychological characteristics and the proposed concept of internet addiction researchers have been unable to agree on a general theory about the etiology. This is evident in Young’s edited book (2011) summarizing the research to date where each chapter suggests different causes for internet addiction, leaving the reader with many possible explanations but no consensus. Researchers have also been unable to agree on who is at greater risk, unable to agree on whether the problems are persistent and unable to determine whether the proposed methods for treatment are successful.

    This, to me, does not seem to make "gaming addiction" a real thing. It suggests that there are huge problems in the research, stemming from an inadequate conceptualization and operationalization.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricen View Post
    I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic. If we continue we will keep running in circles and it will be pretty pointless for us. I think its fair to say, agree to disagree sir? Deal?
    haha, I agree. I respect your opinions.

    No point in making a huge forum mess

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilananazz View Post

    I think it depends. If you have time to play 5 hours or more, with nothing more of importance to do, then it's really just "wasting time". People do these things with books, TV etc.

    I think it becomes a problem when you play 5 or more hours a day when you really go other stuff you should do instead. Such as work, homework, chorus and such.
    I do read computer science, have my own appartment to clean up, make my dinner, see my friends, read books, (Not as much as i did before study though), and do sport.
    You still have time for it if you want to. I mostly chose to play, instead of reading another book, after i've been reading study-relevant stuff. It's my way to relax, and you deciding it's "a waste" is your opinion.
    It's just like the people saying it's a waste to read books. It's not like any of us got brighter from reading LOTR, harry potter,, the Millennium series(that one can be argued), hunger games, or any of robert ludlums books :P
    Yet some spend time on that. How is that not a waste compared to a computergame, if you look past the "personally i like books better"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilananazz View Post
    haha, I agree. I respect your opinions.

    No point in making a huge forum mess
    Well said. Ladies and gentlemen.... Document this as one of the few civil disagreements ever made on MMO Champ. The world is not lost.

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