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  1. #161
    Dreadlord
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    Why buy gold when you can not be terrible at everything and have gold anyway?
    Paladin Bash has spoken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    No wonder those gold sellers never go away... you people in this thread just keeps buying from them >.<
    There will always be buyers because the game itself incentivizes new players to buy gold.


    There's SO many QoL issues created by wealth disparities in WoW.



    No gold?

    No bags.
    No cloth for bandages.
    No potions.
    No food.
    No shiny BoE weapons to expedite your leveling experience. (What exactly IS the point of BoE gear in a world where everyone has BoA heirlooms? You would imagine the prices would sink on good BoE gear that shares slots with BoA gear, but it doesn't. The price of decent BoE leveling gear is atrociously high.)
    No mounts.
    No mount training.
    No professions to level.


    That's just off the top of my head.



    When I first started playing, the first of many attempts at playing, I had one friend who played ubercasually and he never got around to actually playing with me or setting me up with any gold the first time around. So when I realized I couldn't buy bigger bags without buying gold, well, that was an easy answer! It felt like it'd take me weeks or months to earn the gold to get bags... whereas when I broke it down by gold/hour versus dollars earned/hour ... it'd take me a few hours to work IRL for the same gold that would take me weeks in-game. Frankly to not have bought gold in that moment would have been the absolute height of stupidity. It's honestly Blizzard's fault for creating quality of life and enjoyment of game issues so early in the game where new players feel like it's a good idea to go buy gold so that they can enjoy the game the way it's meant to be enjoyed in the first place. First thing I do on all new toons? Fully outfit them with a full set of bags, full bank space, and some gold for random leveling BoEs, food, drink, and some cheapo potions to expedite leveling. All that shit should be baseline and easily accessible to all new players not just ones with friends or ones who buy gold. And YES the leveling experience HAS changed drastically, don't fucking ask me or tell me what the new player experience is like NOW, I'm telling you how it was back before half of you probably even played, because my first WoW accounts were like either just BEFORE or just AFTER BC launched. I promptly quit by the end of my trial as a level 20 something rogue, after getting my face raped by those cackling dog-things in redridge mountains.

    Second time around was very similar, new account because I couldn't be bothered to go find the info for the first one. Bought gold almost instantly to get bags and shit again. Then I saw expensive gear I wanted, and bought gold again. This time I made it to 43 hunter before quitting. I could even tell you the first epic I bought, if I looked it up. It's a level 40 epic gun that's a BoE worlddrop.


    Last time around, current account, I bought several times while leveling in Cata. I had no external resources from like RL friends or a guild to give me handouts, and frankly, by this point in my life, I was making way too much money at a job where I could get almost limitless overtime if I really wanted it to be bothered with "farming" lowbie crap for gold. Like, I could pick up one day of OT, and buy more gold than most people could farm in a month of heavy farming. 1 day to 30 days, not a hard choice, especially since I'm talking max-level characters, and I was a mid level toon.



    Is buying gold against the ToS and EULA? Yea, sure.

    Is it a morally grey area in terms of the repercussions? Of course. And so is buying half the consumer goods that come from places with questionable treatment of and wages for their workers.



    Ultimately my point is this though: As long as there's a path of least resistance for new players to follow, people will buy gold. And as long as there's people that may way more dollars per hour IRL converted to gold from a gold selling website than what they could personally farm up or play the market four... people will buy gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by methus View Post
    Yes i did buy gold, gold ore from the ah when I needed to make my enchanting rod
    This made me laugh, probably more than it really ought to. ^^u

    On topic: I have never and will never buy gold. There are so many real-world goodies to spend cash on! Plus, pretty much all sold gold these days comes from compromised accounts - would you really trust your credit information with those sort of people? Buying gold is wrong no matter which way I look at it.
    Originally Posted by Daeleht (Blue Tracker)
    Post constructively or I'll press some different buttons next time.
    Perfect summations of my feelings on CRZ - why I want to like it but can't.

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    I'm not risking my account for this shit! D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoopie View Post
    I dont get it.. how is me having a shiny mount or some black market auction house gear affect your game play?
    Because scum like you cheat to get it.

    I hope the mods are ok with me calling goldbuyers scum.

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    Yep, once, during BC. I bought 1,000g. I freely admit it because I don't like to hide from my mistakes. It was many years ago, I was a younger, dumber person. The gold was removed from my character by Blizzard a day or so later, and that was the only consequence I had.

    Not only was I just a bigger idiot back then, I've also gained a much better understanding of the way the game actually works, and how the gold-selling market directly affects players.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-13 at 10:37 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoopie View Post
    I dont get it.. how is me having a shiny mount or some black market auction house gear affect your game play?

    I make 85k a year, i dont want to spend 7 hours in front of the auction house out of my 15 hour game time.. thx but not thanks
    You buy gold > You encourage the gold-selling business > They continue exploiting the game and compromising player accounts to keep up with demand.

    Are we supposed to be impressed now that you've given us a number of how much money you make? Sorry, that's completely irrelevant. I'm very glad you live such an amazing life that you just don't have time to play this game legitimately. That doesn't mean you have a license to cheat.

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    Buying gold is stupid..?

    Buying toon customization , faction change , name change ect.. is not ?

    Sounds the same to me. Use of ''non-game'' money to change something in the game.

    Give 30bucks to get 20k and buy a mount with it .. or give 30bucks to blizzard to change my orc to a tauren..

    Only exception is in one side you make Blizzard very happy.
    Last edited by Malkazam; 2012-11-14 at 06:00 AM.

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