Which actually means you just want to tell what you think and is not open for discussion.
Oh, I totally see the logic in creating a topic about this. But no.
"If Blizzard gave people gold bars, people would complain they're too heavy" -Gold, Asmon
That's a Blizzard official stance.
So if I'm running as a tank for the umpteenth time and decide I'd like that trinket for my solo DPS set, well, if the guy is from my server and in a guild I give two fucks about, I might just not roll. If they're some random asshat that isn't pulling their weight and pulls random extra trash packs, well, I'm probably going to roll on that trinket.
The word "steal" is used ironically because no theft occurs in reality but everyone who gets outrolled on an item feels they were stolen from.
Also you're strawmanning.
Well there a bad players in every place, im Brazillian, but i hate to do thing with Brazilians!
First- They are ninjas! Aways hit NEED.. in EVERYTHING..
Second - They are not polite (if u playing a english game, at last know BASIC english)
I can write a lot of things here, but really, dont need!
I write they, not us, because i play wow since beta and i must say, when blizzard open brazilian servers they open Hell Doors.. and im oposite of all brazilian do.
My Chars: Veiomaroto/hatebringer/devilbringer, if u are group with me, im fairplay!
Ohh yes! THEY dont know what is FAIRPLAY..
Btw, sorry about english :P
2 - Wrong.
3 - I would LOVE to know which server you play because you are talking out of your ass here.
Overall PVE US realm list.
NUMBER 5 (Azralon) is 100% BR, and what is the proportion between BR and US players again? perhaps 25 to 1(maybe more? no idea)? not to mention they playing a foriegn game.... not to mention the BR players spread on top US guilds.... we didn't had BR servers until late 2011, MANY veterans never left their original US server to migrate, so please, get a clue dude.
BR have multi r1 glads and multi top dragon slayer-guilds.
I could go on and on about this, countering every argument but it's not worth the effort. to any half-brained-non-biased human being this should be obvious already.
Ok 5m with BA players may not be too big an issue but how about when they are tanking the LFR you are in? Eh? Yeah. I think at the very least a translator in-game should be accessible.
Example: We are in LFR on Elegon & I say in raid "Hey when it says *Powering Down* pls get off the platform around that time thanks." the encounter begins we are going at it and uh oh *Powering Down* I move off with a little time to spare and see 6 ppl fall to their deaths. Everyone laughs of course. But I (Like a lot of other players want to get hrough this as I have other 90s to run in here) say "What was that about?" Then people start commenting almost everyone who fell was from a BA realm so they cannot understand me. >> We reach enrage & do not down him, of course. So I really hope Blizz puts in a translator to assist both sides.
It's hard for anyone to make accurate statements about one's experience when one is only aware of a portion of it. Since there are tons of Brasilian players out there blending in on English realms that are being excluded for one's mental experience index, any statements we make about them can't really be accurate. We can still share our experiences based on the knowledge we have, but it's just as legitimate for someone to point out the limitations of doing so.
So, people have had a lot of negative experiences with BR realms. This could be, as I wondered in an earlier post, if it is simply because the majority of players on that server are new the game, making it a "new players" issue rather than a "BR server" issue.
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I really don't need to rebut your assertions because this is what I was waiting for.
Sure, this person could be a "Fake BR" but honestly, I've seen this before.
LoL has BR servers.
They opened them to get the BRs out of the NA queues.
And now there's tons of people begging to come back because of how terrible the BR servers are.
BRs come on the NA forums and tell us how horrible it is over there.
So outside my personal experience and anecdotes, I see gems like this on a somewhat consistent basis. Even the BRs don't like BRs. And I'm not being hateful, that's pretty much explicitly what the quoted post says. Maybe a moderator can confirm it was posted by a BR IP. =P
Sorry, but I usually have that behavior on PvP realm players, regardless of their countries. Most keep their gaming time being so competitive, and angry with everything and everyone, that they don't stop to think on their gear, skills, or even mechanics.
I had a Paladin, with full PvP gear, not standing in the health pools, not using bombs, pulling everything he saw, while alone and trying to kill the Hozen with his sole abilities, while in Inga Ingoo. And then complain about being killed by mobs. He was from the US realms, spoke english, and yet was a retard that couldn't follow what was written on the screen, and even notice that the other 2 players were bringing the beer to finish the phase. The other player got so tired that left, and I followed.
I had a lot of those mouthbreathers coming from US realms. Can I say all of the US players are morons, too?
Algum BR ?!?!
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5 mans are one thing, but it can feel pretty awful when you're a DPS that waited an hour in queue, and end up having to leave because of the language barrier. The queues for Heroics on my server are around a half hour, and queues for regulars (since they're nearly useless now) can be over an hour.
The problem comes in LFR. Having two tank that don't know any fights, continually face bosses the wrong way, group up the Emperors, or people who were always causing a Roll on Spine, etc etc etc... It's a serious problem.
I've learned Spanish because of it's need in the business world... having to learn Portugeuse isn't really something I want to do to play a video game...
Maybe. But when WoW was "New" everyone kinda suffered together.
And since then the trickle of new players has been steady, and bearable.
If the BR server issue is a "New Player" issue, then the issue is simply the deluge of new players into queues with vastly more experienced players.
Either way, for social, cultural, and communication reasons, their queues should have been and should be made to be separate from the NA queues, for everyone's sake.
try starting by not stealing people gear; if you dont need it/it doesnt belong to you spec and still you hit the need button, that in my book (and for a lot of brazilian players) is gear stealing. maybe then those scary foreign people start to be more polite around you.
I'm sure there's 100% as many English speaking players that refuse to read up on fights, and rely on other people holding their hands.
BUT, in those situations, at least we have the option of telling them what to do, and trying to get them to at least make the fight possible.
Being group with players that don't speak the language of the server you joined, that's completely different.
Online translators don't work very well when you're trying to translate something from english into a latin-derived language, or vice versa.
Being a portuguese player on an international realm, i had a lot of laughs and facepalming moments when my guild mates try to be witty and write something in portuguese, only to end up with some incoherent sentence or rather funny statement.
The thing is, be as it may that some of those brazilian players started playing on those realms before there were brazilian realms, things can't be seen as like some people are suggesting.
Taking into account my own situation: i came into this game loooong before the portuguese realm opened in europe, so i've always called Burning Steppes my home. Yet i didn't force my language on /2 or everyone else. Ok, i know how to speak and write in english, that's a fact, but nonetheless i knew very well that i was joining an english realm, which was/is the standard for international players (read non british players, nor french, or other nationality that already has native realms at launch). I had no choice back then, yes, yet it was an international realm, and english is regarded as the common language whenever 2 people from different countries meet.
I take it that is must have been the same case with the Americas' realms. There wasn't other choice for spanish and brazilian portuguese speaking players, yet everything ingame, from quests to original players communicated in english.
Now with all the realm offer there is to the different languages, you ony stay where you are due to your choice. You can claim you hve your friends, guild, old characters there, but the end of the day, that's all your choice to move to a realm with your language. If you do chose to say, then you have to adapt and speak english as it is the norm on those older realms. That's what i did.
Hmpf.. US citizens.. said americans... ignorance is your blessing.
However, it is a very awkward thing to force a more developed playerbase (game is going on 8 years old here) to queue with a largely less developed playerbase when they cannot communicate with each other effectively. If the same guy dies in fire 3 times, he has to wipe the group every time with his death because we can't tell him "hey when the boss does X, fire appears, move".
The worst three realms I've seen actually are Ragnaros, Tol Barad, and Azralon (in that order). Quel'thalas is a very close fourth. Yes, I realize that two of those realms aren't even BR realms, which is why I've changed the topic to reflect what most NA players are actually complaining about - realms with a different primary language.
And @ an earlier poster: yes, a significant amount of NA players are indeed assholes. I'm no sociologist, but I'd blame it on the length of time many of the NA folk have been playing. The community in NA has gotten far worse over time.
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BR players playing on english realms prob are better with internet etiquette than br realm players.
In any case communication is part of every grp activity so I don't understand Blizzards attitude about it. My personal experience is that whenever I grp up with people who speak language I can't understand it makes me have worse time. I'd get seriously pissed if I had tanks in lfr that didn't speak english.
I find it insulting whenever someone speaks language that other people can't understand in lfg or bg.
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