If i could vote i would vote for the removal of flying mounts .
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When flying first came out i was so excited i grinded gold for a long time just to get epic flying on my dr00d back in the day
A lot of people associate flying mounts to people whining about world pvp, while the OP did list that as an example, there are other problems people have with flying mounts. I dislike flying because it just killed the world for me. Yes yes, I know if I don't like flying then I shouldnt fly, and I dont. But there are a lot of people who simply dont realize that flying is what actually ruined the immersion for many, and led people to not appreciate the world or interact with it as much as we used to.
I do agree that world pvp was alive and well in TBC, but that was because of the objectives in the zones which made it something more than just descending from the sky to fight, then instantly fly back up and sit there.
I organised WPvP with my friends all the time, little raid groups to go to SW walls and such, ever since Azeroth flying its become pointless, people just fly in ontop of you and kill you instantly if you dont have the latest and greatest pvp gear.
Im actually amazed at your sheer amount of arrogance, its fucking astounding, you instantly assumed ive never done WPvP and then go on to tell me that WPvP is something im expecting to be given (wtf does that mean). I dont even know where to begin with that.
I can say with honesty that ive done more WPvP in Elwynn and the surrounding areas than you probably have, it took up most of my playtime because it was so much fun when the allies tried to climb up places and we beat them down. Flying ruins that, people just kamikaze ontop of you.
I love your solution, though! I mean, one item that might drop from one rare spawn with a 15 minute CD and 40 yard range that can't be used while moving solves everything!
(That's sarcasm, because it doesn't mean a fucking thing.)
I believe it because it is true. I'm not saying Flying Mounts should be removed, but to say they didn't hurt WPVP is just folly. How could they not?
Fuck, you admitted it in your own post! You shouldn't have to 'organize' world PVP.
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If everyone got the game the way they wanted it then there would be 10+ million versions of the game. Blizzard is giving us the version of the game that they want to and it's only up to us whether or not we like it enough to pay for it monthly. Personally, I would never give up my flying mount. I'm already too limited on time to play... the last thing I need is to spend a ton of my time galloping around zones just so someone can have the personal satisfaction of the world "seeming" larger or a precious world PvP encounter when you already have the luxury of no flying in every Battleground and Arena already. If they removed flying the next thing you'd want removed is the ability for classes to stealth because they can sneak up on you and that's not fair!
RESILIENCE had a much bigger impact on world pvp. Sincerely. RESILIENCE RUINED PVP FOR PVE'ers.
It did fix pvp for pvp'ers thou.
everyone wanted it. flying is the ultimate freedom. i remember the first time i got my hands on a 280% speed mount back in bc (when the regular flying mount was 60% speed). it was amazing. the thrill i got darting all over the place with my super fast griffon was like no other. complete freedom of movement. now they're so commonplace but then at a time where you didn't get your first ground mount till 40 and your epic ground mount till 60, flying was amazing.
They were put into the game because the devs all sat around a table one fateful day, with a whiteboard at the ready, and one of them spoke. "What would make the first expansion of the game super-ultra-bitchin'?" After much general commotion, another spoke. "Flying around on a dragon." To which the first replied, "that's good stuff." And he wrote "flying mounts" on the whiteboard. Thus it was written, and thus it was.
Maybe I am remembering it wrong, I used to pvp a lot. I don't remember flying changing any incentive of mine to find people to kill. Did you play vanilla?
I Would prefer it if you actually read my post, rather than just blindly targetting it with this rage issue you have
So, if you take a couple breaths, and check again, you will see i never once even hinted at the fact i "didn't think you've done WPvP" I said i bet you haven't tried to organise it, Because if you actually wanted it you would organise it and then there would be no need for your thread, because it would happen
So all that anger of yours directed at me for something you made up...Wonderful
I have done an insane amount of world PvP in Elwynn also, I remember lots of great battles, when you would eventually have a GM appear in the area and tell you to stop climbing on the Lions Pride Inn people would see the Blizz icon in /say and all run into line xD
So, i've also spent tons of time in Elwynn, But i'm not going to blindly assume i've done more than you
And being given WPvP is very simple, not sure how you couldn't know what it means o.O People always come on forums, bitching and QQing at blizz to fix WPvP, when it's only the players can organise it, Yet they want blizzard to give them the magic fix so they can idle about while it happens for them
You also complain about how now people can fly over you and kill you? Lol, How is that bad? That's WPvP! and no, gear doesn't play that much of a factor, Sure, it helps a ton,But you can beat people easy enough
Only engaging in WPvP where you know will win sounds more like you just wanna be able to gank people, True WPvP is also about the corpseruns, the trying to co-ordinate you and your groups ressing, so you have the best chance to wipe out the other faction and reclaim the area you're fighting for=)
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People put WAAAAAAY too much stock into the effect of flying mounts on world PvP.
It's like they forget that flight points existed since the begining of the game. If you were in SW and needed to go to Plaguelands, it's not like you hopped on your trusty charger and started hoofing it.
World PvP happened because there were people who truly liked world PvP that congregated in zones where that kind of stuff happened (Tauren Mill anyone?). If people really wanted world PvP today, there would be world PvP today - regardless of the kinds of mounts that exist. The truth is no one really wants it anymore.
The only thing Blizzard has done that you can legitimately say effected world PvP is the changes they've made to the honor system. There is less incentive today to world PvP. The decline in opportunity, however, is due entirely to player desire.
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