Fixed appareantly, we only got normal elite loots from coins.
How is this relevant? A bug was left in the code and people are taking advantage of it (regardless of whether or not they knew about it previously). It is an exploit, but not one that can or should result in any action from Blizzard other than fixing the bug and possibly converting the loot to what it should have been instead of the heroic version. Before you go spouting off nonsense about whether or not something is an exploit, perhaps you should learn the meaning of the word.
They can and SHOULD remove the heroic loot from players, and return it to normal. It is unfair to let them keep loot from a fight they never did, or not available to anyone. Mistake or not, reverse their loot, they don't deserve it.
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Last edited by Hayro1; 2012-11-14 at 08:11 PM.
So while you may not knowingly have done so, gaining access to an item that is not otherwise available via a program bug is indeed considered to be "exploiting" that bug, as far as they're concerned. Granted, it wasn't done knowingly, so it's probably not actionable, unless they find chat logs of you telling trade chat "Everybody use coins on this fight to get heroic gear!!!" or something.
I wouldn't bet on keeping the items "just cause the error's on their side"
Remind me of a certain arena season in BC where a PvP axe had no cost after a patch. Everyone had their weapons removed a few days after.
That said, yeah - they'll likely just revert them to normal elite.
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I'm not claiming that the OP is in the wrong for using their coin and they should be banned or anything, but I still believe it's an exploit.
The fact of the matter is that there is NO LEGITIMATE WAY that a player can have heroic items at this point, nor is there EVER a way of getting heroic-elite items from a normal-elite encounter.
Considering blizzards main reasoning behind the heavy handed way of dealing with LFR exploits was that "there was no way to ever legitimtely get loot from a raid boss twice in 1 reset", I'd say it justifies fixing and not just leaving as is, though I certainly don't agree with punishing the player in any way more than lowering their item down to the correct level.
As for if it can be called an exploit or a bug, it's purely splitting hairs over semantics.
You can argue it's not an exploit since the OP didn't know it would happen. Entirely true.
What about someone who had read this thread and did know it would happen? Is it then an exploit for them?
You can argue that it's purely using ingame mechanics and that the coins are provided by blizzard. Entirely true - but that's not what makes an exploit.
Saronite bombs are provided by blizzard, using them to respawn Arthas' platform isn't intended behaviour, nor is getting heroic items from a normal encounter.
No one bar blizzard themself is in a position to claim it's an exploit or not, and if anything is a certainty, it's that blizzards definition and reaction are massively unpredictable.
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Using a coin on a drop isn't an exploit, even if you knew ahead it would give you something that's not supposed to drop.
And that was a reply from a head gm a while ago about something else, since all appeals go through him about exploit contests, he's quite accurate.
They won't take them away.
The impact is relatively small considering you had to do the elite normal mode, you had to have a coin and you had to get lucky.