OKCupid study shows women say 80% of men are "below average" looking

[Reeve]

Yeah, and depending on the debt it could prove their are irresponsible. I know I couldn't date someone with an asston of credit card debt.

Now, mortgages and student loans are another story...

Depends a bit on the size of the student loans and what they were for. If I found out they used their student loans to be able to live without working while doing a double major in underwater basket weaving and 18th century Nepalese literature with a masters in paranormal phenomena, I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that.

If they were working while in school and just took enough student loans to help them get that engineering or computer science or biochem degree or something, I'd be totally OK with that.

[Rukentuts]

Depends a bit on the size of the student loans and what they were for. If I found out they used their student loans to be able to live without working while doing a double major in underwater basket weaving and 18th century Nepalese literature with a masters in paranormal phenomena, I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that.

Touche. I agree with that.

[FathomFear]

The funny thing is, someone posted a few weeks ago that when most guys work out they focus on their chest, but most women find the butt to be the most attractive part.

Personally both help. Generally all people want to look good both from the front and the back.

And when people talk about a guy's butt, that's ultimately "curves". Guys have them too. The angle of how the back transitions to the rear, angle of chest into the torso, neck into the back, etc. They all help accentuate a guy's figure, just as certain angles do on a woman.

[rayden54]

It's quite retarded, and this just tells us that women has TOO HIGH expectations of men.

How many men in the world is above average looking? 50% of them
How many is below average? 50% of them. It's simple.

I hope at least some women will figure this out and maybe say to themselves "Ohh, maybe my expectations are too high"

Or at least know how "average" works :3

That would assume that none of them actually are average. Typically, the majority of the population is average, and the highs and the lows are the outliers. So say 50% are average looking, 25% are above, 25% are below.

Also given that 1/3 of the US population is considered obese, that number could be skewed considerably.

[Reeve]

Interestingly, I just got messaged by a good looking woman on OKC not 5 minutes ago whose personality looks good from her profile. Unfortunately, she lives 67 miles away.

[Rukentuts]

Interestingly, I just got messaged by a good looking woman on OKC not 5 minutes ago whose personality looks good from her profile. Unfortunately, she lives 67 miles away.

That isn't that far in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't hurt to message her back and at the very least start as internet friends.

[Reeve]

That isn't that far in the grand scheme of things. Doesn't hurt to message her back and at the very least start as internet friends.

Yeah, I already responded. It wouldn't be excessive, except that I have a leased car with mileage limits way lower than they would need to be for me to go out with someone who lives that far away.

[Toffie]

I am rare then

[Jackmoves]

Depends a bit on the size of the student loans and what they were for. If I found out they used their student loans to be able to live without working while doing a double major in underwater basket weaving and 18th century Nepalese literature with a masters in paranormal phenomena, I wouldn't want to be on the hook for that.

If they were working while in school and just took enough student loans to help them get that engineering or computer science or biochem degree or something, I'd be totally OK with that.

I think borrowing money for a reasonable investment is fine, for example an education, borrowing money to maintain lifestyle is something totally different though. Grown ups should have learned to live on a budget, you don't borrow money for a trip to Thailand for example, you save up for that. You don't take a SMS loan at 4 o'clock in the morning, shit like that doesn't sit right with me. It's just irresponsible behaviour.

[Wells]

The thing that boggled my mind about the study was that 80% of men being "below average" is a mathematical impossibility.

Well technically no, there could just be a couple insanely good looking guys screwing with the average.

[FathomFear]

Well technically no, there could just be a couple insanely good looking guys screwing with the average.

That, and the fact that when people say "Below average" they aren't using it as a mathematical term that compares someone against a "real" average. It's a qualitative statement.

[vanin]

How can 80% be below average? By definition that doesn't work >.>

For what it's worth, as a dude I find most women attractive in some way or other. Maybe women are just too picky?

[Rukentuts]

How can 80% be below average? By definition that doesn't work >.>

For what it's worth, as a dude I find most women attractive in some way or other. Maybe women are just too picky?

Depends on what the average is: average looks, or average man.

[Laize]

Well technically no, there could just be a couple insanely good looking guys screwing with the average.

I suppose that's technically true, but given the sample size I'd say it's statistically unlikely.

[Rimrot]

Being 43 and getting back into the dating scene after a year break from a really bad break up, I can tell you that in the not so great state of Utah, if you don't have movie star looks and a deep wallet, you are not getting a date. Even if the gal is butt ass ugly chances are online you're not getting a date. Women are just as shallow if not more so than men in the 40+ age group.

[Rukentuts]

I suppose that's technically true, but given the sample size I'd say it's statistically unlikely.

Well, one has to take into account that a dating website may not account for a true sample of demographics.

[Laize]

Well, one has to take into account that a dating website may not account for a true sample of demographics.

I fail to understand how that could be the case.

You're talking millions of members and an accurate sampling of one gender but not the other?

While possible I really don't think it's the case.

I wish this blog hadn't shut down so they could have posted a followup where they controlled for this.

[Rukentuts]

I fail to understand how that could be the case.

You're talking millions of members and an accurate sampling of one gender but not the other?

While possible I really don't think it's the case.

I wish this blog hadn't shut down so they could have posted a followup where they controlled for this.

No I mean of men. More types of men might be attracted to online dating than other types. This could skew the average.

[Laize]

No I mean of men. More types of men might be attracted to online dating than other types. This could skew the average.

While possible, I still find it extremely unlikely. You're talking about a really huge sample size.

[guff]

Yes, you are. You're confusing the average of the maximum and minimum with the average of all the values.

I see, so you assume that it is a uniform distribution? that there are equally many ugly, reasonably ugly, normal, reasonably pretty and pretty people in the world. I see. That is a horrible assumption, but why not just say that in the first place?

The median is the middle value; the one that has 50% below and 50% above. The average value equals the median only with symmetric distributions (gaussian, uniform, student t etc), but not in skewed ones (chi-square, exponential, beta etc). Here is an image to explain the difference:



edit: picture didnt work, so http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mean+and+median