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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    If this were to happen, what would you as a player do?

    Me? Rejoice.

    Blood Elfs imho are one of the most annoying races in the game, and just plain stupid looking (at least the males are, and their dance is atrocious). The only other race that comes close to how annoying the Blood Elfs are, is the Goblins. Plus, theres not a whole lot of lore surrounding the Blood Elfs to begin with.

    If the Alliance were to add High Elfs to their faction, I would want to see them "buff" them up so to speak. Make them larger, more brawn, but keep the females petite and dainty. I like me some dainty females if you know what i mean! Would you like to see high elfs added to the Alliance in the next expansion along with Ethereals?
    You say they look stupid, I say: Gnomes. So yeah...
    Why should they be "buffed" up? High Elves are just BE's without the green eyes (ofc there's more of a difference but what we would see as players are just BE's without the nice eyes).
    And yes there is lore on the Blood Elves.. Its the same as the High Elves with the addition of the whole sunwell thing and Kaelthas etc. A lot more lore than say, the Gnomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Negative, I specifically said, change the blood elf models to be a bit larger, a bit more brawn, not too much, but not so gay looking. For the Males, the females actually look pretty good.
    Again, the race is exactly the same. Unless the High Elves became body builders the past 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunzium View Post
    You say they look stupid, I say: Gnomes. So yeah...
    Why should they be "buffed" up? High Elves are just BE's without the green eyes (ofc there's more of a difference but what we would see as players are just BE's without the nice eyes).
    And yes there is lore on the Blood Elves.. Its the same as the High Elves with the addition of the whole sunwell thing and Kaelthas etc. A lot more lore than say, the Gnomes.
    We forget about the actual lore because people know their is a lot around them for the sake of an arguement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    Again, the race is exactly the same. Unless the High Elves became body builders the past 10 years.
    Which would be silly cause they (atleast before) were mostly magic users and hunters according to the lore and such. I belive thats one of the reasons you could not be a warrior belf :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysia View Post
    Have you noticed the only people derailing this thread are the ones coming in here to do nothing but complain about the OP?

    These types of posts need to stop now. They aren't constructive, they aren't useful, and they're the ones causing a derail while everyone else is perfectly capable of actually discussing the topic.

    Again, if you have issues with moderation, please take them to Sunshine or Bibi. Making public cries on the forum do nothing but cause unnecessary drama.
    May I suggest a thread closure then, instead of letting this drag out? No amount of warning or infracting is going to do any good or solve the already out of hand bashing of the OP regardless of who it is, as people will go ahead and risk it just to get their point across (sometimes people think it's worth the risk, as already evidenced by earlier replies).

    You can already see nothing good is or will come of this if allowed to continue, sometimes fair warning is just not enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunzium View Post
    You say they look stupid, I say: Gnomes. So yeah...
    Why should they be "buffed" up? High Elves are just BE's without the green eyes (ofc there's more of a difference but what we would see as players are just BE's without the nice eyes).
    And yes there is lore on the Blood Elves.. Its the same as the High Elves with the addition of the whole sunwell thing and Kaelthas etc. A lot more lore than say, the Gnomes.
    Gnomes actually do have some interesting lore, it's not as chaotic as the elven lore (Sin'Dorei and Quel'Dorei) has become. But mostly due to Gnomes being safe with only few events against them, mostly being Gnomeregans creation, fall and semi failed reclaim. And well, for the elven, there might only be the eyes for the ones whom doesn't care. But if you are into the lore or roleplaying (which you should know a bit lore atleast) then you would know the difference between then two is much larger.

    I do say, disliking a race due mostly what I see, their dance. Is a bit of unfinished reasoning. I mean, all races get two dances, and there are bound to be people disliking one of them. For example, I hate the male Tauren because I find it degrading of a noble race like the Tauren. (Again, my opinion).

    And well, the "buff" part would be fair as I said earlier towards melee classes only. But else, Blood Elves and High Elves are known not to be brutes, hence they shouldn't be bigger, as I told OP. But again, a discussion like this on MMO-Champion is still only lines on paper, Blizzard wont see ideas here anyways. But I still find it interesting to see what people might want to adjust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    I've just always thought of them as annoying running around in the neutral cities, they are the most flamboyant race there is (again for the males). The female Blood Elfs are not that bad actually, but both of their dances are still retarded.

    I understand that High Elfs are blood elfs, but they should make a return to the Alliance since thats where they used to be, and their Allegiance should go back to their original Allegience. It has also been hinted that they could be a race added as a sub race to the next expansion for the Alliance along with Ethereals.
    Okay seriously i'm gonna reply again here. You want them removed because of the silly dances? seriously? i mean.. c'mon.. seriously?
    The most flamboyant race.. Yes, and so? dont transmog into something flamboyant if you don't like it.
    And while we're talking silly things i would, again, mention GNOMES.. pink hair, 10cm tall, silly voices, extreme lack of proper lore (you got Gnomeregan and that's it ppl).
    Btw im not hating on gnomes here, just saying that as long as this race is in-game, no one and i mean No one, is allowed to call other races silly or annoying (annoying is a strong word here i think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Gnomes actually do have some interesting lore

    And well, the "buff" part would be fair as I said earlier towards melee classes only. But else, Blood Elves and High Elves are known not to be brutes, hence they shouldn't be bigger, as I told OP.
    1. Okay i disagree, besides Gnomeregan there isn't really much going on for them as far as im aware.
    2. If the melee classes should be brawnier why not do that on all races?
    3. High Elves would just not make very much sense. There are extremely few of them compared to BE's and again why remove a race from one faction just to give it to the opposing faction while removing the color of the eyes. This would make no sense. If you wanna RP as a HE then role a BE or a NE and pretend its a HE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    If this were to happen, what would you as a player do?

    Me? Rejoice.

    Blood Elfs imho are one of the most annoying races in the game, and just plain stupid looking (at least the males are, and their dance is atrocious). The only other race that comes close to how annoying the Blood Elfs are, is the Goblins. Plus, theres not a whole lot of lore surrounding the Blood Elfs to begin with.

    If the Alliance were to add High Elfs to their faction, I would want to see them "buff" them up so to speak. Make them larger, more brawn, but keep the females petite and dainty. I like me some dainty females if you know what i mean! Would you like to see high elfs added to the Alliance in the next expansion along with Ethereals?
    OP is just delusional, Blood Elves are the most popular race.

    You spout the most inane bullsh*t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunzium View Post

    1. Okay i disagree, besides Gnomeregan there isn't really much going on for them as far as im aware.
    2. If the melee classes should be brawnier why not do that on all races?
    3. High Elves would just not make very much sense. There are extremely few of them compared to BE's and again why remove a race from one faction just to give it to the opposing faction while removing the color of the eyes. This would make no sense. If you wanna RP as a HE then role a BE or a NE and pretend its a HE?
    1.: as said ^^ They should have more though, no race should be low on lore.
    2.: Never said they shouldn't on others. Just saying that it should be more visable on Blood Elves as they are not used to brute force (melee). Of course this could be applied to other races, but some it might work other way then. For example Orcs, they might need to have a weaker looking model for the ones making a non melee? Orcs models already fit their brute and fierce way of living. Tauren's also, a noble and peaceful race, but with the muscle to crack skulls if the reason is there. Only ones I would allow to see a "buff" option for melee would be such as Sin'Dorei, Humans, trolls mostly. Night Elves for some reason I've been looking at, has an okay figure to fit a melee as well.
    3.: There's supposed to be very few Sin'Dorei as well. Many followed Keal'thas and adventurer's then slaughtered them. Only some stayed back to tend their land and await hope. And a group went away because they are like some RP'ers (not bashing needed, but some bad RP'ers does this) they wont accept what has happened and they seek to just leave the area and find a different path than the main group and forget. Is that called arrogant? (not sure). And the whole of picking a Kaldorei to play a Quel'Dorei is just no.. You are not even close to be something alike it, too much difference (I know RP'ers do this though to atleast have a chance to act like one on Alliance). And rolling a Sin'Dorei on Horde to be a Quel'Dorei would leave you on enemy grounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blockygame View Post
    May I suggest a thread closure then, instead of letting this drag out? No amount of warning or infracting is going to do any good or solve the already out of hand bashing of the OP regardless of who it is, as people will go ahead and risk it just to get their point across (sometimes people think it's worth the risk, as already evidenced by earlier replies).

    You can already see nothing good is or will come of this if allowed to continue, sometimes fair warning is just not enough.

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    I suggest you not to do so... you'll get an infraction just like many real posters here that pointed the obvious about this thread... sad this is the biggest forum about some games... if it was not, I bet lots of people would have left seeing the kind of moderation we get from time to time.

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    Every time I see a Jaylock thread I just don't know what to make of them. Most of his topic are to spit fire into the majority I swear or just going against the crowd.

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    To be honest to people within this thread.

    I know many has been infracted and some calls for a closing of the thread, some even got banned within it. But I don't see what the problem is. I know the OP has a bad repution among other threads, but this thread is actually a viable dicussion topic. Though I point out of course that the OP made a vague start on the discussion. You cannot point out one thing without finding more, and as well ad solution ideas. The OP should have been a bit more detailed in his post, but what I see here is a hunt, the most whom derail the topic are people whom see to have a problem with the OP. As said, OP started with a bad reputation within other threads, but I haven't seen the biggest problems from the OP's side except that the main post could be a bit more detailed to hold a better discussion running.

    But for now, it's only the ones with a target on the OP whom are derailing the subject. We already know the result of what the OP asks for is going to be negative, but we are all allowed to have opinions, you know it.
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    There have been three warnings in this thread, two from a Super and one from a regular Mod.

    And just because people seem confused: calling people trolls is infractable. Insulting other posters is infractable. Discussing moderator actions is infractable. Derailing a thread by doing any of these things is infractable. On the other hand, posting a mildly controversial discussion topic is not infractable. You might keep that in mind or you are going to find that the infractions end up in the opposite place you wanted them to.

    There is nothing wrong with the original post. The only problem in this thread is the people who come in just to talk about posters rather than posts. I'm locking this thread not because of the topic but because I'm really frustrated that I'm having to infract people for crying about something they could have solved by using the ignore feature or taking the high road.

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