At first i didn't like it but i have gotten used to it. I think it would be cool though if dire beast wasn't on the GCD and the focus cost of MoC reduced.
Crows is a little clunky right now but with proper planning it's not too hard to find the focus to use it on cooldown, you just have to resist using arcane shot between KC's ~15 seconds before it comes up
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Well, just be glad level 90 talents don't make hunters miserable to play.
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I can't see how anyone can be 'for' all of these new talents.
They made our rotations significantly more difficult than most other classes, and we can barely compete with other pure DPS'ers. MM burst is nonexistent because all of the damage that it used to do with Chimera and Aimed Shot was put into the new talents, for the sake of balancing DPS.
The more damage sources we have in our PvE rotations, the less burst we have room to do in PvP, because they just can't afford to make our main attacks hit hard. Maybe if we didn't have Glaive Toss and Dire Beast, the damage lost from not having those could be put back into the weak-hitting Explosive Shot and the lackluster Chimera/Aimed Shot that we have in PvP. If people can't see that then they are just not thinking.
glaive toss is amazing
i hope it stays the best dps option for level 90 talents forever
As SV i the only ability i find to be a pain in Dire Best.
Sure i could take thrill and get a passive ability but its not as good DPS vise.
And as SV i need all the extra DPS i can get to be as close to BM as possible.
As for BM i despise the spec with a burning passion its to clunky.
And to reliant on pet pathing which does not seem to work half the time.
And the rotation is a priority list whack a mole there is just a pain.
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i still find Barrage to do more dps than Glaivetoss btw, for BM atleast, in aoe situations. especialy if used under rapidfire.
I think the talents are about right. Maybe the last tier needs a bit of work, I hate abilities with a cast/channel time, especially if they stop auto shots as well. I disliked them when I had to play as MM, and hate them now.
Also, I've never understood why Rapid Fire is still there. It's a lot of haste, but not a huge amount of DPS for SV/BM. I'd rather see Bestial Wrath replace it and have RF as a MM only CD.
Yes, both quite horrible additions to our previously nice SV priority queue. Even worse as BM, especially at the start of a fight when I'm going all-out spamming half my keyboard.
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Glaive toss has a horrible animation IMO.
Stampede was and still is to some extent a really stupid feeling ability that kind of sums up the MoP method of pvp.
Double deterrence/exhilaration feels stupid too, there's something lazy about deterrence, its an obvious 'switch your dps away from me' ability that doesn't feel at all polished into anything that's a compelling gameplay choice.
Well, coming from my main perspective which is a rogue perspective:
Be happy, at least you got something new. You didn't get all your old talents/base spells renamed/"revamped"(If you can even call it that) and placed as a """talent""" that is barely useful and doesn't increase your dps at all. As a hunter you get at least 3 talents to increase your dps!
From my hunter perspective: I enjoy it, it adds a challenge every now and then. If you balance it just right, it's a blast to play it.
I do agree that some things like crows can be a pain, but at least it's something.
Originally Posted by ikabod00
I was quick reading and spoted something i liked.
I also laugh when people mention "Rapid Fire" is a cd, because i find it... lacking... at least compared with other classes cds. The idea of BW among all specs could be very sweet, but i guess that will never happen (though warriors have "Avatar" as a talent, which is somewhat similar as BW, maybe even a bit better, except for its longer CD).