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  1. #521
    the "get geared or lose your spot" rush is well and truely over.... if you weren't already revered in the second week, you aren't working hard enough. My mage was exalted week two, i spent hours upon hours at mogu, farming keys. Got two alani mounts before getting to exalted. (easy 600k gold for me)

    If you feel dailies are mandatory for you to get gear, the real question is WHY, the gear is = to LFR and WORSE then normal mode raid gear. You only need blues to clear that shit too. If you or your group is unable to clear the content without getting your epics, you may need to improve your playing standards.

    Also sorry if you feel burnt out because you feel you have to do them, glad bliz made it so the crafted epics are BoP and the enchants can only be used if you're an enchanter with the pattern.... /sarcasm

  2. #522
    Quote Originally Posted by alucardtnuoc View Post
    the "get geared or lose your spot" rush is well and truely over....
    Cool. So, the excuse that guilds are still gearing up to hit normal mode raids is now over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyaldee View Post
    Dailies are counterproductive and forcing us to do things that aren't fun at all. It should be an option, not a mandatory feature.
    I'm just curious how they force you to do them? Everytime I go to do dailies I have to click the person with the blue exclamation point then I actually have click to accept the quest. Where is the forcing coming into play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidbozz View Post
    I'm just curious how they force you to do them? Everytime I go to do dailies I have to click the person with the blue exclamation point then I actually have click to accept the quest. Where is the forcing coming into play?
    Most players need the ilvl 489 VP pieces to advance (normal raid participation is still very low).

    This is forced in the sense that if they don't do it, they pay a large price in progression, which is a central feature of the game's value proposition. Sure, if you ignore that, everything in the game is optional. That's not a useful position to take, though.
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    blizz must feel pretty good about themselves, give people options on gearing up and now people complain about the options instead of glitches/imba pvp.
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  6. #526
    This is definitely the grindist thing since vanilla. The thing that makes it so bad is that they have reasons for you to NEVER really be free of dailies. This is why postal workers go crazy.

  7. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by Phuongvi View Post
    omg you mean we actually need to do some effort to have some fucking gears ?
    We don't. Dailies are just a time sink. They take about as much effort as watching TV and they're not as entertaining.

    Again, I am paying for this shit, or was. I am really not going to pay for the privilege of "working hard" for gear. There are plenty of free to play games that offer mindless grinds, I'd go play one of them if I wanted to grind. For a subscription game I expect actually interesting content and dailies aren't interesting content. I don't understand this grinder mentality that people have to WORK HARD for their gear blah blah. No, I'd rather not work hard and put weeks of effort in it. I like the idea of gear being there as a reward for doing something challenging, fun or interesting, I do not like gear as a reward for a mindless grind.

    The system was still fine in WotLK before LFD when you only got emblems for raids and the daily heroics added a tiny bit to that. That way the raids had two loot systems, the drops and some guaranteed loot progress for everyone with the emblems, and then you had an extra incentive to go out and do some 5 mans with the daily heroic thing. With the change from emblems to valor and valor eventually made farmable to cap in one evening of heroics getting valor gear got too easy but instead of stepping back and limiting it again they added a grinding requirement on the gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Tell me, how do I grab my lucky coins outside this apparently optional daily content?
    You don't. Welcome to World of Dailycraft!

  9. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardcream View Post
    You don't. Welcome to World of Dailycraft!
    That's not 100% true. The locked chests you can find in Guo Lai vault (that give GL rep) also have 5 coins in them.
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    and worst part is the reps dont get useless with every expansion pack now, but with every patch.

  11. #531
    Quote Originally Posted by jaakkeli View Post
    We don't. Dailies are just a time sink. They take about as much effort as watching TV and they're not as entertaining.

    Again, I am paying for this shit, or was. I am really not going to pay for the privilege of "working hard" for gear. There are plenty of free to play games that offer mindless grinds, I'd go play one of them if I wanted to grind. For a subscription game I expect actually interesting content and dailies aren't interesting content. I don't understand this grinder mentality that people have to WORK HARD for their gear blah blah. No, I'd rather not work hard and put weeks of effort in it. I like the idea of gear being there as a reward for doing something challenging, fun or interesting, I do not like gear as a reward for a mindless grind.

    The system was still fine in WotLK before LFD when you only got emblems for raids and the daily heroics added a tiny bit to that. That way the raids had two loot systems, the drops and some guaranteed loot progress for everyone with the emblems, and then you had an extra incentive to go out and do some 5 mans with the daily heroic thing. With the change from emblems to valor and valor eventually made farmable to cap in one evening of heroics getting valor gear got too easy but instead of stepping back and limiting it again they added a grinding requirement on the gear.
    Dailies are effort. Effort comes either from time spent or from challenge. LFD takes neither.

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    I am finally done with leveling the Pandarian factions on my main raid character. Just now starting to dust off my poor neglected alts and I sigh when I look at their Unfriendly reputations with the Panda factions just thinking about the next 6weeks I get to spend quest grinding because I want a certain Pattern. Plus, I'm just very picky with my faction reputation that I can't leave it at just revered or just into exalted I have to max them out.

    The upside to doing the dailies every week is around the 15k gold I get from the quest turn in, plus greens, chance of sky crystal, etc..

  13. #533
    Doing dailies once awhile is fine, but having to do it everyday in order to be able to buy valor gear makes it feel like a job while playing a game rather than doing what I like.

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    Gotta say Blizz never seizes to amaze, new expac, whats new? Dailies, enjoy, gotta say absolutely horrid expac.

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    I like that people hate the dailies so much to the point they ignore the fact your getting gold for doing it. Back in TBC when it was new, players were so excited to get that much gold for questing.

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  16. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by DannathGR View Post
    This is definitely the grindist thing since vanilla. The thing that makes it so bad is that they have reasons for you to NEVER really be free of dailies. This is why postal workers go crazy.
    Thats so accurate since I have been done with dailies for 2 weeks now and when 5.1 comes up I will do the dailies for 10-14 days and then be done with dailies until 5.2, or did you mean that we would never be free of dailies like how a 9 year old thinks that Santa will never get here fast enough?

  17. #537
    so with 5.1 out you get to grind more dailies...and now grind valor for 6 months to upgrade gear. And you all still want to defend this game that its not going in the wrong direction??

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    Who actually still needs rep with anyone but the black prince and the faction offensive. Actually I dont even need rep with the offensive because all the vp gear is shit. Even on my alt I can get into lfr so i dont need vp. At this point you really dont need to do dailies at all unless you want it for achievement points or mounts. So ffs please quit bitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narshe View Post
    I like that people hate the dailies so much to the point they ignore the fact your getting gold for doing it. Back in TBC when it was new, players were so excited to get that much gold for questing.
    The gold is trivial to what I would make from playing the auction house.

    Making dailies a massive part of the PvE endgame was a mistake. I'm really interested why they thought shoving dailies down the player's throat was a step up from any philosophies they had with Cataclysm. Perhaps they shouldn't try to fix what wasn't broken (WotLK).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chry View Post
    Making dailies a massive part of the PvE endgame was a mistake. I'm really interested why they thought shoving dailies down the player's throat was a step up from any philosophies they had with Cataclysm.
    It's because dailies are cheap to make.
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