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Correct me if I am wrong, but will anyone actually ever VP cap? Aren't they bringing in a system that allows you to spend 750VP to upgrade Epic gear from like 463 to 471 or higher?
Which is also probably why the number of complaints about them has gone down as well. Of course it might pick right back up again in 5.1.
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Yes they are, and a few people worked out the math showing that to upgrade all your gear would take something like 24 or 25 weeks of hitting the weekly valor cap to earn enough to upgrade every slot.
I found I enjoyed the game significantly more when I stopped paying attention to all the people on the forums telling me how much I am supposed to hate itAll this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.
--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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What if they made tabards that forced you to only run reg Panda Dungeons and capped you after 25 runs (a similar number of dailies) and only awarded you the same daily cap of VP and rep? Would you prefer to run dungeons? Great. Your rep/VP earn level is locked to the daily level to keep it even. Now you have your "choice". Go run dungeons. So many people already done with all the dailies. They are exalted, have their BIS gear, and are already raiding. All we get to see are the folks that are just not motivated enough to play the same game that 10.3 million other subs are playing.
There is an awesome Q&A over on WOW Insider today about this very topic.
Basically the guy asked why people get defensive about daily haters and quoting from the site here is the last bit of the answer....
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"That is your opinion, and you are welcome to it. You may as well ask why people like broccoli -- I can't stand the stuff myself, but my father and my brother happily devour it all the time. I do not, however, sit there and gripe and moan about the fact that they are taking those disgusting green vegetables and stuffing them down their maws. I simply don't eat it. Why? Because I don't have to.
Generally speaking, people feel the need to defend themselves if they feel they are under attack. To wit, the broccoli example -- if I sat there and griped the whole time my father and brother were happily devouring their broccoli, they'd likely start to argue with me about it. Not to mention I'd be distracting them from all the delicious broccoli they are enjoying. Personally, I don't feel it worth my time or energy to gripe about something that someone else enjoys. I'd rather spend my time doing more productive things, like finding things I enjoy, and enjoying them. I don't care for broccoli, but making my family feel miserable because they like it is not only annoying, it's incredibly rude.
Basically, daily quests are something to do. They are an alternative piece of endgame that people can choose to participate in, and they offer a lot more to do than just running dungeons all day. Do you have to do them? No. Will it hurt you in the long run? Not especially. I was 99% geared and ready to go for raiding without spending a drop of valor on gear. I probably could have avoided the valor gear altogether had I done a few more heroics, but I'm not a huge fan of heroics. I like questing. And so, I quest."
I think a lot of people are forgetting that this raid content is not the 8 bosses in Dragon Soul, its a potential of 17 bosses that they can get loot from in MoP that you can do every single tuesday. If you have the coins you have 20 shots at loot EVERY WEEK and that gear is BETTER THAN VALOR GEAR!
I believe the problem is that so many people feel like they HAVE TO get those reputations to exalted. I would like too but seeing as we have to do dailies instead of just wearing a tabard I completely opted out, I'm getting my gear from heroics (I'll admit I have yet to reach enough ilvl for LFR due to lack of time) and the only reputation I'm raising is with the tillers.
I don't want to do dailies so I don't do them. It's true, I feel like I'm losing something, but it's probably not worth it.
--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
And amazingly enough, that is almost exactly how many quests you need to do per day to unlock a VP purchasable item before you have the VP to buy it. There is no reason ANYONE should do more than 6-7 daily quests per day other than vanity items. People who can´t do math will never realize how well the devs set this up.
whats the point in spending valor point gear when the majority of people havent finished gearing up yet to upgrade? you want to upgrade gear that will be replaced quickly?
the only flaw in that plan is the hardcap itself. so what if valor rots away? there wont EVER be any valor gear as high as normal raid gear EVER so anyone whos raiding will NEVER need valor gear once they get a little gear from the first tier of this expansion.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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THIS. If they bark about dailies, I lose my dailies. But here is someone who was raid ready without doing dailies. He is no different than any other raider. You want BIS, do dailies. You wanna raid, find out who this guy is and what he did to get "ready to go for raiding without spending a drop of valor on gear".
--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
And another thing! There are too many mobs in the game! How am I supposed to get anything done if I have to kill them all?
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The heal hatchlings quest is actually a profession quest only available to those with First Aid. You don't even need to heal them up fully. Next time you're on that quest, use a regular Windwool Bandage, when you see the debuff from using first aid bandage you can stop and will still get credit for "healing" it a couple of seconds later.
or.. you can do ALL the dailies on a single day and have your 90 damn lesser charms, and if you spend more than 2 hours doing them they you have bigger problems than not enough time or not enough charms.
I have over 1500 of those stupid charms in my bank right now. and I am only doing one set of dailies for 2 more days then I'm done all the way around.
--- Want any of my Constitutional rights?, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
I come from a time and a place where I judge people by the content of their character; I don't give a damn if you are tall or short; gay or straight; Jew or Gentile; White, Black, Brown or Green; Conservative or Liberal. -- Note to mods: if you are going to infract me have the decency to post the reason, and expect to hold everyone else to the same standard.
im raiding with no valor gear i must be uber bad and bottom of the dps charts every week guise all mans gerrs i better querrtss der germs
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
FC: 3437-3046-3552