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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    AMD drivers have been mostly better than nVidia's this generation. (Slightly opinionated, slightly observing reports from others)
    Also, the GTX 680M has no relationship with the GTX 680 outside of the name; They're not at all related, nVidia just uses the same naming scheme for notebooks.
    That is false. The 680M uses the same GK104 chip but with one less SMX cluster.

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    Yeah it used to be a bigger difference between their desktop and laptop chips during fermi, probably due to the power consumption of the chips. What came to be the Kepler top-end chip is rather power efficient so I guess they really could introduce it for mobile devices as well. (Though there is still plenty of deceiving models like the GTX 670M and 675M which are fermi.)

    I'm still convinced that they initially planned something else than GK104 in the desktop 680, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerzzzz View Post
    That is false. The 680M uses the same GK104 chip but with one less SMX cluster.
    Yep you're right http://i.imgur.com/lxs8j.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    Meanwhile sitting here with a HD7870.

    Well...I don't have that much money.

    Can somebody say something to comfort me? T_T
    I'm sitting here with a 560 Ti. -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I'm sitting here with a 560 Ti. -.-
    Hehe...well life is unfair. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I'm sitting here with a 560 Ti. -.-
    All systems are made equal. But some are more equal than others.

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    YOU PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PAIN!!!

    No, but seriously, I could have gotten the 570 at the time I got the 560 Ti (though I DID get the MSI TFII 560 Ti OC for only $213, so that was nice... This was June 2011) and I regret it. Back then I was just like "well, WoW is like, all I play. So, why should I get a 570?

    Dumbest mistake ever, since I quit WoW for good less than 2 months later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    YOU PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PAIN!!!

    No, but seriously, I could have gotten the 570 at the time I got the 560 Ti (though I DID get the MSI TFII 560 Ti OC for only $213, so that was nice... This was June 2011) and I regret it. Back then I was just like "well, WoW is like, all I play. So, why should I get a 570?

    Dumbest mistake ever, since I quit WoW for good less than 2 months later...
    So what do you play now than? You sound like you need more power :P

    Im just happy with my 7970, altho i guess i would have also been with a 7950. But getting a 1440p screen this week so, the extra power is good. Making me more happy with the 7970 :P

    But deltrus, look at it this way. Your need to upgrade is sooner --> new stuff to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    YOU PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PAIN!!!

    No, but seriously, I could have gotten the 570 at the time I got the 560 Ti (though I DID get the MSI TFII 560 Ti OC for only $213, so that was nice... This was June 2011) and I regret it. Back then I was just like "well, WoW is like, all I play. So, why should I get a 570?

    Dumbest mistake ever, since I quit WoW for good less than 2 months later...
    Get the 770 when it releases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerzzzz View Post
    That is false. The 680M uses the same GK104 chip but with one less SMX cluster.
    Quote Originally Posted by Faithh View Post
    Yea, that's GTX 670, not GTX 680 then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Yea, that's GTX 670, not GTX 680 then.
    Okay, now say that in a language where we can follow your logic. Because I frankly did not understand how you reached this conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Okay, now say that in a language where we can follow your logic. Because I frankly did not understand how you reached this conclusion.
    I did. A gtx 680 with one smx unit disabled makes 13xx cuda cores, which is the gtx 670 and the gtx680m (with lower clocks). Die size is pretty much 100% the same and the transistors are equal as well 3540M trans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nab View Post
    Get the 770 when it releases.
    If I get $300-400 on Christmas, I'll buy whatever is out at the time, most likely a 660 Ti - 670. Really hoping to afford a 670.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeara View Post
    So what do you play now than? You sound like you need more power :P

    Im just happy with my 7970, altho i guess i would have also been with a 7950. But getting a 1440p screen this week so, the extra power is good. Making me more happy with the 7970 :P

    But deltrus, look at it this way. Your need to upgrade is sooner --> new stuff to play with.
    Sorry forgot to answer this:

    Rift and Skyrim are the two main ones.

    Rift is VERY GPU-intensive, on top of VERY CPU-intensive. I barely run it even on high and I cannot get constant 60 fps unless out in one of the old zones. - The new zones for Storm Legion are very demanding.

    Skyrim I'd like to go mega-mod mode on, but I feel getting a better GPU first would be a good idea.http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/19/skyrim-graphics-mods/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    If I get $300-400 on Christmas, I'll buy whatever is out at the time, most likely a 660 Ti - 670. Really hoping to afford a 670.

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    Sorry forgot to answer this:

    Rift and Skyrim are the two main ones.

    Rift is VERY GPU-intensive, on top of VERY CPU-intensive. I barely run it even on high and I cannot get constant 60 fps unless out in one of the old zones. - The new zones for Storm Legion are very demanding.

    Skyrim I'd like to go mega-mod mode on, but I feel getting a better GPU first would be a good idea.http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/19/skyrim-graphics-mods/
    Wow the graphics are just amazinggg. Wish there was just a GUI to install the mods instead of editing files etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faithh View Post
    Wow the graphics are just amazinggg. Wish there was just a GUI to install the mods instead of editing files etc..
    There is, as far as I'm aware. Do a Skyrim Mod Manager search.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Yea, that's GTX 670, not GTX 680 then.
    670m is more similar to a 580 than an actual 670. Older tech clearly used.

    Last edited by Milkshake86; 2012-12-11 at 01:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkshake86 View Post
    670m is more similar to a 580 than an actual 670. Older tech clearly used.
    On account of it being Fermi, yes. But not GTX 580, no.

    The GTX 680M is more closely related to the GTX 670 than the GTX 680 which was my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    On account of it being Fermi, yes. But not GTX 580, no.

    The GTX 680M is more closely related to the GTX 670 than the GTX 680 which was my point.
    Performance of the 670m is on par w/ the GTX 580, huge step for FERMI mobile step up. I'd have to say the 660 670 and 680 are all way to similar in every respect, from performance on down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkshake86 View Post
    Performance of the 670m is on par w/ the GTX 580, huge step for FERMI mobile step up. I'd have to say the 660 670 and 680 are all way to similar in every respect, from performance on down.
    Excuse me, but I have no idea what you are even trying to say, or why it's an argument against what I'm saying.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Excuse me, but I have no idea what you are even trying to say, or why it's an argument against what I'm saying.
    Why do you assume its an argument? Why did I have a reason to argue with you? Counter points conversation and forum threads are not "arguments", not only am I not in anyway agitated im not trying to convince you Im not having a heated discussion absolutely nothing that constitutes an argument.

    If you want an argument Ill say your wrong, facts are facts its Gk104 all chips of the line are too similar to each other to even remotely start a this is closer to this argument, the mobile performance is probably on par w/ the 670 but they are both as similar to 680's as each other, that and the fact that they start 680 and make every subsequent gpu from the top model on down.

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