From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes. They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."Blizzard's blame game in action: Deleting 6,100+ of Kevyne's posts and threads from the WoW forums.
I also feel obligated to address your signature. Half of the population are unskilled whiners, I didn't need anyone to convince me of that. Your posts were probably deleted for breaking forum rules.
No ... what you see is the fact that WoW is played by multi millions of people per region and after 7 years (since the 6 first months of Vanilla WoW) ...the complete world is filled with people whatever the zone.
It is called a Multi Mass On line gaming world.
For the first time in MMO's history these worlds are filled as should be (by a potential of 100.000's of players per region per world instead of just a few dozen on dying single servers).
Expect this mechanic along with region wide Guilds, region wide AH, region wide world bosses and adventures in all upcoming MMO games from Blizzard.
As a matter of fact, with cross server open worlds and real landscapes and ... Phasing, you wouldn't even need instances any longer in a complete new MMO design.
The world should be filled. Just not with bands of 90s camping.
Stay on topic and refrain from going after people personally. -- ML
Last edited by MoanaLisa; 2012-11-17 at 08:10 AM.
Most of the people in here:
> Plays on a low ranked PVE server
> "Deal with it, its PVP"
> Doesn't even have Just the two of us: 1550
People who roll on PvP servers and then whine about being ganked. Well, those people have been around since vanilla and can't seem to learn.
edit: How many of these CRZ sucks threads are started by players on PvP servers complaining about being ganked? I'd say the vast majority of them.
So you are saying it is acceptable to be camped by multiple 90+ toons in a low level zone for hours?
There's a limit to being griefed.
You're saying shit like this, where a group of 4 alliance fucktards were camping the spirit rez/body rez areas, is acceptable?
I don't know about you, but I don't consider it skillful when a person with 300k more hp than me can one shot me over and over. Ganking is fine if you do it a couple times. When you think you're a hardass or e-thug after camping 50 lowbies for hours, then you are just bad.
Maybe this why the only low pop servers WoW has are PvP servers. Because people don't wanna pvp on them, instead just wanna think there badass or a hardcore player.
"Necro this isn't towards you, your situtation isn't right and you shouldn't be camped like that."
I'm just saying this to the general crowd who complain about getting ganked on PvP server in general.
It is the same whether you are lvl 30 or lvl 90.
Open world play is what it is: open world. Get out your own lvl 90's and friends and you have world PvP.
if you don't like it go to a PVE server and only play instanced PvP/.
it is VERY clear what happens here: People in 2012 have NO clue anymore what it really is: playing an on line MASSIVE game with others.
... it was high time someone invented seamless cross server open world play.
Last edited by BenBos; 2012-11-17 at 08:53 AM.
Um I did play during TBC and vanilla. When people camped lowbies, they were added on our server's forum (on wow site) as people to kill on sight. Some baddies were actually forced to xfer off because they were so awful.
Ninjas were blacklisted. Griefers were blacklisted.
You can't do that with CRZ. All I see are players like Dickhole-ShittyRealm just going around camping lowbies. There is no accountability anymore for ganking lowbies.
AGAIN THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH BEING GANKED WHILE LEVELING. THE ISSUE IS WHEN DICKHOLE DECIDES HE WANTS TO SPEND 3 HOURS JUST CORPSE CAMPING LOWBIES.
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It is called open world pvp. Don't play on a PvP server if you don't know friends helping you out.
I very much doubt you played Vanilla Wow ... Even in the Brady WoW playing guide, they said you better had friends if you wanted to play on a PvP server. That's why friends do matter in an MMO.
Blizzard opened the box of ever lasting and populated world zones ...
Jesus, who would have thought that THE biggest troll complaint "empty worlds" was so soon replaced by people complaining ...the world is too crowded (and on a pvp server that ... Means being fought and camped...)
It's been noted above but here is the real deal with pvp servers: It's kind of like somebody is picking on your younger sibling. You're allowed to bully them, but when somebody else does it, it isn't right.
For pvp servers, we're all cool to some degree with the other faction killing us. With CRZ, people from other servers are killing us and our opposites...Just isn't right, doesn't make it personal. =(
People simply can't handle the stress of a populated world in WoW be that pvp or even pve.
Normal reaction to something new. We could see that with the new cross server play in the past (2006 BG's, 2009 LFG dungeons, 2011 LFG Raids). All opposed by some forum dwellers .... Until new MMO's didn't include these things and hey they were dead on arrival.
0.5% whine and yell on forums, but these mechanics ... work to make WoW a highly played game.
Because you need to regroup people in an MMORPG or you no longer are an MMORPG...
To the guy above: since the cross server play is limited to a few servrs, you'll meet those same gankers faster than you think.
If you can't handle players in your world, stop playing mmo's.
Last edited by BenBos; 2012-11-17 at 09:30 AM.
- Call for help from guildies, friends or general chat. You can also use the Who tool and ask random 90's to help you out.
- Quest somewhere else, you can easily reach 90 without doing all the quests in Pandaria.
- Sign up for a dungeon or battleground.
- Log out for a while.
For as long as you keep ressing they will know that they can stay and kill you further...