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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seezer View Post
    Camping is not new to CRZ's.
    Back then it was only from your own realm. On faction dominated servers it was more than rare.

    Now? Can have 5+ realms camping now.
    From the #1 Cata review on Amazon.com: "Blizzard's greatest misstep was blaming players instead of admitting their mistakes. They've convinced half of the population that the other half are unskilled whiners, causing a permanent rift in the community."
    Blizzard's blame game in action: Deleting 6,100+ of Kevyne's posts and threads from the WoW forums.

  2. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevyne-Shandris View Post
    I sure did! Because that is exactly what happened. You'll see the disconnected from Battle.net warning in the chat screen just before the client gets a Not Responding error message. To get out of is via killing the WoW client via Task manager.

    It was a total mess, so I quit. No point is spending $45/mon for hard lock ups.
    So, you pay three times as much as everyone else does per month eh? That's interesting. I don't think I'd pay $45 a month to play.

    I also feel obligated to address your signature. Half of the population are unskilled whiners, I didn't need anyone to convince me of that. Your posts were probably deleted for breaking forum rules.

  3. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seezer View Post
    You can get camped either way. Let's say that CRZ's were never in place. But all of the sudden, all of the servers became highly populated. Would you still say that "I rolled a pvp server not knowing that a bunch of people were going to be coming back/starting to play wow"?. Camping is not new to CRZ's. While leveling in MoP on release, I got camped relentlessly for the first week. And this was no CRZ. More people in the world=more of a chance of stuff like this happening. CRZ's aren't "retarded" for putting more people into the world.
    When I'm questing it seems to always fill the world with a million from the other faction. I don't see my same faction at all anymore. Not sure what others are finding but maybe they should have a ratio set so it isn't one sided.

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by Katfish View Post
    When I'm questing it seems to always fill the world with a million from the other faction. I don't see my same faction at all anymore. Not sure what others are finding but maybe they should have a ratio set so it isn't one sided.
    The ratio is pretty much 50% for both factions, so nothing to see here.

    No ... what you see is the fact that WoW is played by multi millions of people per region and after 7 years (since the 6 first months of Vanilla WoW) ...the complete world is filled with people whatever the zone.

    It is called a Multi Mass On line gaming world.

    For the first time in MMO's history these worlds are filled as should be (by a potential of 100.000's of players per region per world instead of just a few dozen on dying single servers).

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    Expect this mechanic along with region wide Guilds, region wide AH, region wide world bosses and adventures in all upcoming MMO games from Blizzard.

    As a matter of fact, with cross server open worlds and real landscapes and ... Phasing, you wouldn't even need instances any longer in a complete new MMO design.

  5. #385
    The world should be filled. Just not with bands of 90s camping.

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    It shows you have no clue.

    The cross SERVER open world mechanic is the Holy Grail for ever lasting populated worlds in an MMO.

    I am sorry but Blizzard will use this technique in its newest MMO to the fullest.

    Gone are the empty worlds with this server technique.

    EVERY single server MMO died a painful death in its open world play .... 4 months after their launch.

    And here you are.... Complaining an 8 year old game has ... too many players (sic) in its 8 year old level 15 zone ...

    Think before posting ...

    I guess most players have the brains of an ant ... Just so they can gather things ...
    Ahaha rofl. Its BenBos again, I knew you would crawl out when someone mentions CRZ. Seriously, are you a spokesman for some company that invented CRZ and now wants to sell this *** on the mass market? Or what? "Holy Grail" LMAO, give me a break.

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    Last edited by MoanaLisa; 2012-11-17 at 08:10 AM.

  7. #387
    Most of the people in here:
    > Plays on a low ranked PVE server
    > "Deal with it, its PVP"
    > Doesn't even have Just the two of us: 1550

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    Most of the people in here:
    > Plays on a low ranked PVE server
    > "Deal with it, its PVP"
    > Doesn't even have Just the two of us: 1550
    Hmm. People who don't enjoy being ganked rolling on a PvE server. Sounds like they made the right choice.

    People who roll on PvP servers and then whine about being ganked. Well, those people have been around since vanilla and can't seem to learn.

    edit: How many of these CRZ sucks threads are started by players on PvP servers complaining about being ganked? I'd say the vast majority of them.

  9. #389
    So you are saying it is acceptable to be camped by multiple 90+ toons in a low level zone for hours?

    There's a limit to being griefed.

    You're saying shit like this, where a group of 4 alliance fucktards were camping the spirit rez/body rez areas, is acceptable?


    I don't know about you, but I don't consider it skillful when a person with 300k more hp than me can one shot me over and over. Ganking is fine if you do it a couple times. When you think you're a hardass or e-thug after camping 50 lowbies for hours, then you are just bad.

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    Maybe this why the only low pop servers WoW has are PvP servers. Because people don't wanna pvp on them, instead just wanna think there badass or a hardcore player.

    "Necro this isn't towards you, your situtation isn't right and you shouldn't be camped like that."

    I'm just saying this to the general crowd who complain about getting ganked on PvP server in general.

  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    So you are saying it is acceptable to be camped by multiple 90+ toons in a low level zone for hours?

    There's a limit to being griefed.


    I don't know about you, but I don't consider it skillful when a person with 300k more hp than me can one shot me over and over. Ganking is fine if you do it a couple times. When you think you're a hardass or e-thug after camping 50 lowbies for hours, then you are just bad.
    The same happened in Vanilla WOW when all of the world was filled with people.

    It is the same whether you are lvl 30 or lvl 90.

    Open world play is what it is: open world. Get out your own lvl 90's and friends and you have world PvP.

    if you don't like it go to a PVE server and only play instanced PvP/.

    it is VERY clear what happens here: People in 2012 have NO clue anymore what it really is: playing an on line MASSIVE game with others.

    ... it was high time someone invented seamless cross server open world play.
    Last edited by BenBos; 2012-11-17 at 08:53 AM.

  12. #392
    Um I did play during TBC and vanilla. When people camped lowbies, they were added on our server's forum (on wow site) as people to kill on sight. Some baddies were actually forced to xfer off because they were so awful.

    Ninjas were blacklisted. Griefers were blacklisted.

    You can't do that with CRZ. All I see are players like Dickhole-ShittyRealm just going around camping lowbies. There is no accountability anymore for ganking lowbies.

    AGAIN THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH BEING GANKED WHILE LEVELING. THE ISSUE IS WHEN DICKHOLE DECIDES HE WANTS TO SPEND 3 HOURS JUST CORPSE CAMPING LOWBIES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    The same happened in Vanilla WOW when all of the world was filled with people.
    no it did fucking not, if some fuckers tried that during vanilla they would be blacklisted and would have to change server if they ever wanted to do a quest ever again because they would be killed and camped on sight

  14. #394
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    So you are saying it is acceptable to be camped by multiple 90+ toons in a low level zone for hours?

    There's a limit to being griefed.

    You're saying shit like this, where a group of 4 alliance fucktards were camping the spirit rez/body rez areas, is acceptable?

    I don't know about you, but I don't consider it skillful when a person with 300k more hp than me can one shot me over and over. Ganking is fine if you do it a couple times. When you think you're a hardass or e-thug after camping 50 lowbies for hours, then you are just bad.
    On a PvP server it is.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-17 at 09:06 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    Um I did play during TBC and vanilla. When people camped lowbies, they were added on our server's forum (on wow site) as people to kill on sight. Some baddies were actually forced to xfer off because they were so awful.

    Ninjas were blacklisted. Griefers were blacklisted.

    You can't do that with CRZ. All I see are players like Dickhole-ShittyRealm just going around camping lowbies. There is no accountability anymore for ganking lowbies.

    AGAIN THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH BEING GANKED WHILE LEVELING. THE ISSUE IS WHEN DICKHOLE DECIDES HE WANTS TO SPEND 3 HOURS JUST CORPSE CAMPING LOWBIES.
    And here you spent those 3 hours just giving them something to do. You could have played an alt, got your main out, or decided that was enough WoW for the evening and taken a break to come back at a time when those players were not there. Don't blame CRZ when there are other options.

  15. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    Um I did play during TBC and vanilla. When people camped lowbies, they were added on our server's forum (on wow site) as people to kill on sight. Some baddies were actually forced to xfer off because they were so awful.

    Ninjas were blacklisted. Griefers were blacklisted.

    You can't do that with CRZ. All I see are players like Dickhole-ShittyRealm just going around camping lowbies. There is no accountability anymore for ganking lowbies.

    AGAIN THERE IS NO ISSUE WITH BEING GANKED WHILE LEVELING. THE ISSUE IS WHEN DICKHOLE DECIDES HE WANTS TO SPEND 3 HOURS JUST CORPSE CAMPING LOWBIES.
    Nothing is preventing you to take out your own lvl 90's and start a big open world war, just like the old Tarren Mill battles or SV epic fights. Gankers never work in an organised group.

    It is called open world pvp. Don't play on a PvP server if you don't know friends helping you out.

    I very much doubt you played Vanilla Wow ... Even in the Brady WoW playing guide, they said you better had friends if you wanted to play on a PvP server. That's why friends do matter in an MMO.

    Blizzard opened the box of ever lasting and populated world zones ...

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    Jesus, who would have thought that THE biggest troll complaint "empty worlds" was so soon replaced by people complaining ...the world is too crowded (and on a pvp server that ... Means being fought and camped...)

  16. #396
    It's been noted above but here is the real deal with pvp servers: It's kind of like somebody is picking on your younger sibling. You're allowed to bully them, but when somebody else does it, it isn't right.

    For pvp servers, we're all cool to some degree with the other faction killing us. With CRZ, people from other servers are killing us and our opposites...Just isn't right, doesn't make it personal. =(

  17. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitobunny View Post
    It's been noted above but here is the real deal with pvp servers: It's kind of like somebody is picking on your younger sibling. You're allowed to bully them, but when somebody else does it, it isn't right.

    For pvp servers, we're all cool to some degree with the other faction killing us. With CRZ, people from other servers are killing us and our opposites...Just isn't right, doesn't make it personal. =(
    So your saying if Blizzard just combined all the PvP servers people wouldn't bitch about the fact that they are being corpse camped. It's only because those people are from other servers is the issue.

  18. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeraxis View Post
    So your saying if Blizzard just combined all the PvP servers people wouldn't bitch about the fact that they are being corpse camped. It's only because those people are from other servers is the issue.
    It sounds stupid but it's actually pretty true. In BC I was often corpse camped by 5 people but if I cared enough I could seek them out later when I was leveling or when I hit 90 (which I often did...I remember killing a Draenei a lot lol). With CRZ I don't have the option to get revenge later, I'm just killed by some random guy who I probably won't see again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeraxis View Post
    So your saying if Blizzard just combined all the PvP servers people wouldn't bitch about the fact that they are being corpse camped. It's only because those people are from other servers is the issue.
    Yeah, it is a click most people didn't make yet. Like when all those dudes said: get out of my server, while in reality there was no home server, only a new identity: a united battlegroup server.

    People simply can't handle the stress of a populated world in WoW be that pvp or even pve.

    Normal reaction to something new. We could see that with the new cross server play in the past (2006 BG's, 2009 LFG dungeons, 2011 LFG Raids). All opposed by some forum dwellers .... Until new MMO's didn't include these things and hey they were dead on arrival.

    0.5% whine and yell on forums, but these mechanics ... work to make WoW a highly played game.

    Because you need to regroup people in an MMORPG or you no longer are an MMORPG...

    To the guy above: since the cross server play is limited to a few servrs, you'll meet those same gankers faster than you think.

    If you can't handle players in your world, stop playing mmo's.
    Last edited by BenBos; 2012-11-17 at 09:30 AM.

  20. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrophagist View Post
    So you are saying it is acceptable to be camped by multiple 90+ toons in a low level zone for hours?

    There's a limit to being griefed.

    You're saying shit like this, where a group of 4 alliance fucktards were camping the spirit rez/body rez areas, is acceptable?


    I don't know about you, but I don't consider it skillful when a person with 300k more hp than me can one shot me over and over. Ganking is fine if you do it a couple times. When you think you're a hardass or e-thug after camping 50 lowbies for hours, then you are just bad.
    Yes it is fully acceptable on a PvP server. As has been mentioned before there are several things you can do:
    - Call for help from guildies, friends or general chat. You can also use the Who tool and ask random 90's to help you out.
    - Quest somewhere else, you can easily reach 90 without doing all the quests in Pandaria.
    - Sign up for a dungeon or battleground.
    - Log out for a while.

    For as long as you keep ressing they will know that they can stay and kill you further...

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