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  1. #541
    Quote Originally Posted by Summerdrake View Post
    Why are you here? There's some low levels in STV you can show your "skills"
    I dont play on pvp servers. Getting ganked and camped is part of a pvp server, so if you dont like it, dont roll on one.

  2. #542
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrox View Post
    I dont play on pvp servers. Getting ganked and camped is part of a pvp server, so if you dont like it, dont roll on one.
    I see you got nothing to say on pve realm griefing on npcs. In WHAT WAY would the solutions I offered hinder your experience of wow? Are you whining for the sake of whining? Got any more one-liners you can throw in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrox View Post
    I dont play on pvp servers. Getting ganked and camped is part of a pvp server, so if you dont like it, dont roll on one.
    No one plays on a pvp server any more. Individual servers died the day CRZ was released.
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  4. #544
    Quote Originally Posted by lanerios View Post
    gotta love MMO-champ. This thread is staying open for ages, and whenever someone else says fuck or trolls (like this) it's closed instantly. <3

    On topic:

    PVP on a pvp server, nowai! What unexpected!

    And for the PVE people, not willing to shock you, it's an MMO
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    MULTIPLAYER

    So you are meant to be with other people in questzones, don't like that? Cya!
    it is also an RPG. ROLE. PLAYING. GAME. do you role-play? because if you dont, you arent following the rules of the game are you? i see your cya and raise you a fare-thee-well.
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  5. #545
    Quote Originally Posted by Summerdrake View Post
    I see you got nothing to say on pve realm griefing on npcs. In WHAT WAY would the solutions I offered hinder your experience of wow? Are you whining for the sake of whining? Got any more one-liners you can throw in?
    I have yet to notice this problem on a pve server.

  6. #546
    Nah... nah... nah... time for some old guy wisdom cause this "You rolled on a PvP server..." line is over-used and is the lamest excuse I've ever seen from the WoW Community.

    I started out as a beta tester for Ultima Online which holds the title as the most severe, cruel PvP / open world system in MMO History -- I've broken into peoples houses and looted them clean, made tons of gold from items people died for etc. If you stepped one foot outside of a guard zone, it was open season on you and anything in your backpack and your clothes ... even your shoes. This "You rolled on a PvP server..." has to be the lamest excuse I've ever seen because you, by its very nature, have rolled on a Player vs. Player not a Player vs. Insanely Underpowered Weakling Who Has No Hope of Even Hitting Me.

    Stop hiding behind your childish and INSANELY wimpy motto of it being a "PvP server", man up and pick on people your own level because us old UO Players pretty much laugh and spit on your "extreme, hardcore" wow servers where you get to keep your entire outfit AND backpack and lose nothing when you die -- you guys are the wimps, trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post
    People complain theres no world pvp,

    blizz introduce CRZ to help encourage pvp

    Pvp happens,

    You complain to get CRZ removed

    You need to be shot seriously,

    whether your like it or not ganking is part of world pvp, and the way huge zones battles used to happen would start that way, and slowly people pulling in friends to come help them and it would escalate from there
    They could have done it even better, remove all forms of que-systems and abolish arena, this would also mean the social aspects was returned so it could truly be an mmo again with the added side effect of realm populations dealing with grievers n' ninja's the only real way.., clocking them from group content (most of the time)
    Considering how faceroll everything is becoming the I don't have time card is effectively gone!

    Not that I don't like CRZ since I do, I just feel it's another band aid as they've done with countless "features" just so some 4eye could cry evolution baby.., it seems new features are preferred simply for the sake of being new no matter how shoddy it's done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothyjean View Post
    Nah... nah... nah... time for some old guy wisdom cause this "You rolled on a PvP server..." line is over-used and is the lamest excuse I've ever seen from the WoW Community.

    I started out as a beta tester for Ultima Online which holds the title as the most severe, cruel PvP / open world system in MMO History -- I've broken into peoples houses and looted them clean, made tons of gold from items people died for etc. If you stepped one foot outside of a guard zone, it was open season on you and anything in your backpack and your clothes ... even your shoes. This "You rolled on a PvP server..." has to be the lamest excuse I've ever seen because you, by its very nature, have rolled on a Player vs. Player not a Player vs. Insanely Underpowered Weakling Who Has No Hope of Even Hitting Me.

    Stop hiding behind your childish and INSANELY wimpy motto of it being a "PvP server", man up and pick on people your own level because us old UO Players pretty much laugh and spit on your "extreme, hardcore" wow servers where you get to keep your entire outfit AND backpack and lose nothing when you die -- you guys are the wimps, trust me.
    Where's the "old guy wisdom" in your post?- all I read is ignorance.
    Last edited by Banzhe; 2012-11-18 at 02:31 PM.

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    why do you level by doing quests? .. its worthless, ive gone from 1-85 in a couple days just by doing instances

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    Go play on PvE server or stop whining.

  10. #550
    I never understood the qq about being ganked on a pvp server....Seriously, how much % of our fights are true honorable fights?

    There's always a factor that will imbalance things (i.e.: being outnumbered, being ganked by someone with pvp gear while your doing your daily quests in pve gear, surprise attack, etc.) It's human nature trying to get some advantage and win by any costs...so you won't see someone from oposing faction warn you hes going to engage in combat...when you choose a pvp server your basically taking this full package of (unfair) combat...

  11. #551
    Quote Originally Posted by Injin View Post
    No one plays on a pvp server any more. Individual servers died the day CRZ was released.
    You really have no clue how CRZ works do you? Even though I'm quite sure I explained it before, a certain type of server only merges with the same kind of server. So yes there is definitely PvP, PvE, RP and RPPVP servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaozu View Post
    You really have no clue how CRZ works do you? Even though I'm quite sure I explained it before, a certain type of server only merges with the same kind of server. So yes there is definitely PvP, PvE, RP and RPPVP servers.
    No, once servers are merged there is no longer the server you chose.

    I am on Zenedar, EU. Only.... when levelling up an alt I am no longer on Zenedar EU, I am on Blackout, EU. I didn't sign up to that. Zeendar as a seperate server to level on no longer exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Injin View Post
    No, once servers are merged there is no longer the server you chose.

    I am on Zenedar, EU. Only.... when levelling up an alt I am no longer on Zenedar EU, I am on Blackout, EU. I didn't sign up to that. Zeendar as a seperate server to level on no longer exists.
    Yes when you enter a CRZ you enter a "neutral" zone of that which several different servers zone into, but if you're on a PvP server only people from other PvP servers will be able to zone into it. Someone from a PvE realm cannot zone into a PvP realm unless invited by someone on a PvP realm over real ID, and even then you are just a "guest" on their server and still have to live up to their rules.

    So even if someone who's on a PvE realm invites someone from a PvP realm, that person will still not be able to gank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaozu View Post
    Yes when you enter a CRZ you enter a "neutral" zone of that which several different servers zone into, but if you're on a PvP server only people from other PvP servers will be able to zone into it. Someone from a PvE realm cannot zone into a PvP realm unless invited by someone on a PvP realm over real ID, and even then you are just a "guest" on their server and still have to live up to their rules.

    So even if someone who's on a PvE realm invites someone from a PvP realm, that person will still not be able to gank you.
    So individual servers no longer exist, which is what I said.

    I happily accept your apology for your baseless and inaccurate "correction."
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  15. #555
    trendy actually has a good idea... it seems that only Chaozaou and the lonely servers with 50 or less people in their world.. want CRZ.. so why not just link the low pop servers together?

    for the 95% of the wow pop that hates it.. their 5% would be much happier.

  16. #556
    Quote Originally Posted by Injin View Post
    So individual servers no longer exist, which is what I said.

    I happily accept your apology for your baseless and inaccurate "correction."
    What I was trying to get across is that the realm types still exist, which you claimed they didn't by saying all realms are the same...

    And yes, indivudial servers still exist, just head into Stormwind/Orgrimmar or Pandaria. And the merging of servers in this way is not a bad thing, it's an incredibly good thing that will make sure that zones don't ever die out and always feel populated! If they can work on this further and share Auction House and the like then the closing of servers won't ever be necessary, low populated realms will no longer be low populated because all servers merge together into one huge server.

    This, is a good thing.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 04:02 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by casually View Post
    trendy actually has a good idea... it seems that only Chaozaou and the lonely servers with 50 or less people in their world.. want CRZ.. so why not just link the low pop servers together?

    for the 95% of the wow pop that hates it.. their 5% would be much happier.
    I love it when people make up numbers like this... Tell me, what did you base the 95 % of the playerbase on? Did you make some sort of poll? Because if it's only from personal experience of the people you've met I can tell you that's really sodding exceptional for you since I have had the opposite experience and mostly met people who love CRZ.

    Only Blizzard has the real numbers of how many likes it or dislikes it, and I can tell you for a fact that if 95 % of the playerbase hated it they would have reversed it immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotted View Post
    Pvp happens,
    Nobody complains that there is PvP.

    They complain because bored douchebags decide to camp low level toons because they're incapable of real PvP.

    And to be honest, I leveled 3 chars from 1-80 since CRZ was introduced and.. well.. there hasn't been a single time where I thought "Wow, I'm so glad that there is CRZ and there are other people around!", simply because.. it doesn't matter that there are other people around. If I wanted to socialize while leveling, I could do so before CRZ. I won't just suddenly start talking to people just because I see them running around in the same area.

    The only things CRZ effectively brought are happier times for gankers and harder times for gatherers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fexus View Post
    Exactly. The best world PvP battles I've been a part of have always began because a big guy picked on a little guy. Little guy gets his friends. Big guy gets his friends. It's on.
    This only works if they are not in a phased area...Westfall has a huge phased area around the tower...and there are many other spots now in game that phasing will not allow some players to get help from friends due to how far they quested into a zone...if the other factions hasn't done the quest like ie all quests in Westfall which the horde can't do....then the ally player can't get any help cause if you come as a player that has done all quest line you will not be able to see the low level ally player or the horde around the Sentinel hill area.....there are quite a few spots like this around the game now and both sides known of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilag View Post
    Herpin' the derp are we?!

    You gotta remember you made the choice to play on a PvP server, and spawn camping comes with the turf. CRZ isn't a factor. You could always take the res sickness, hearth, repair, and wait it out. If you're so bummed about your 77 toon go level an alt, make a twink even. Hell, go make something to eat or go outside instead of face-palmin' for 2 hours. There's a ton of dungeons and bgs that are available to you in the wotlk bracket, use them.
    Second this

    just Q for a bg or Q for a dungeon ... better to get some xp than none!!
    you can always go into the city sort your bags out ? pet battles? i mean there is so much other stuff to do to get xp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaozu View Post
    What I was trying to get across is that the realm types still exist, which you claimed they didn't by saying all realms are the same...
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    Which I never said.

    I said there are no servers any more, which there aren't.

    I accept your apology.
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