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    I don't know if it's a bug or not, but I could successfully do Gluth 25 while kiting him around his room. If you have Death's Advance and run around strafing you can DPS Gluth while you kite the adds. Another helpfull thing on that fight is Glyph of Death and Decay, making Death and Decay Slow all the adds, you could also instead of Death's Advance go for the slow and spread diseases with Roiling Blood + Pestilence Glyph.

    So, be blood, spread either slow diseases on the adds, couple it with DnD if needed or go Death's Advance. I killed him twice now with just that tactic.

    Or you could just use all Death Runes on Necrotic Strike and be done with it in no time. It's the only fight that requires pre-planning.

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    I tried clearing 25 Naxx a while back, as blood, in PvP gear. Two malevolent pieces, 2900 DPS weapon from a scenario. Health somewhere a bit over half a million with buffs. Full mastery reforge where possible, DPS stats reforged to dodge where mastery was already found.

    All I can tell you is that my DPS wasn't enough to kill Patchwerk before the enrage, and it wasn't a breeze staying alive. I was pretty much teetering at the edge of staying topped up, or in other words, not starting to slowly hemorrhage health. No idea about my DPS, didn't have recount or anything.

    Could be easy in DPS PvE gear, seeing as though it won't have much worse survival stats, and the DPS should be much much higher.

    A word of warning though: if you're similarly geared, don't expect to kill him as blood. I personally won't be going back until I get my Malevolent axe, and even then I'm not expecting to kill the guy. I got him to like 10-20% something, not sure, didn't really pay attention.
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    I seem to recall 96k dps to beat Gluth on 25m, not a bloody clue where I am pulling this number from though. Total bitch, rest is pretty faceroll.

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    Has anyone specifically farmed trash for the Silent Crusader? If so, which mobs do you suggest and do the mobs there grant Dark Succor upon killing them?

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    If you are 90 they won't trigger Dark Succor, but just use a blood off-spec you don't need tanking gear for the trash, in 10 man even the hardest boss is easier than a MoP rare.

    And it seems to drop from anything so just kill all trash, maybe go for the spider one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    I tried clearing 25 Naxx a while back, as blood, in PvP gear. Two malevolent pieces, 2900 DPS weapon from a scenario. Health somewhere a bit over half a million with buffs. Full mastery reforge where possible, DPS stats reforged to dodge where mastery was already found.

    All I can tell you is that my DPS wasn't enough to kill Patchwerk before the enrage, and it wasn't a breeze staying alive. I was pretty much teetering at the edge. No idea about my DPS, didn't have recount or anything.

    Could be easy in DPS PvE gear, seeing as though it won't have much worse survival stats, and the DPS should be much much higher.

    A word of warning though: if you're similarly geared, don't expect to kill him as blood. I personally won't be going back until I get my Malevolent axe, and even then I'm not expecting to kill the guy. I got him to like 10-20% something, not sure, didn't really pay attention.
    Waaa? Did it last reset on 25 as Blood with about 40-50k DPS. He's the only boss in there that can actually move your health bar (Raz doesn't compare...honestly did it for the lulz in the same reset, didn't take me below 90%) but you just cycle VB and BS and maybe even the odd RT here and there and the jobs a good en.

    Did Thadius on 25 aswell, went several minutes into the enrage and noticed it actually has a duration.....I'm really tempted to see what happens if it does time out but would involve not DPSing the boss at all untill he actually enrages because you need to DS constantly to stay alive when he actually enrages.

    Might try Gluth on 25 this week too, normally only takes me to 70-80% on 10 man as Frost but the biggest problem I can see is that I'll need to use AotD but they won't follow me out of the pipe when ever I've tried summoning them there and he seems to pull as soon as I hit the floor. With AotD/pre pot/etc then I'm pretty sure most Frost DK's are opening at around the 120k+ region so the DPS requirement should be manageable. (/edit just realised I still need Slayer of the Lifeless so 10 man it is this week)

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you Vereesa, I'm farming 25 man trash for Silent Crusader like you and I would recommend Blood over Frost any day.....mostly just for the convenience of being able to pull all the trash at once compared to keeping pulls small as Frost because you can't self heal. If you want to go back in the week then the best technique I can think of is to leave wing bosses up and clear all of the outer rings then reset. The trash between Noth and Hagen seems to be the highest density area and there's barely any trash in it's outer ring so maybe leaving Heigan up would be a good idea too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Waaa? Did it last reset on 25 as Blood with about 40-50k DPS. He's the only boss in there that can actually move your health bar (Raz doesn't compare...honestly did it for the lulz in the same reset, didn't take me below 90%) but you just cycle VB and BS and maybe even the odd RT here and there and the jobs a good en.
    Well, you're most likely not wearing rare PvP gear with an ilvl450 rare 2900 DPS weapon, with DPS stats reforged to mastery or dodge where available, and with almost every gem either mastery or stamina. It would seem I'm around 25K DPS or so, according to Skada, and that's to a 85 dummy, since in Orgrimmar it seems to be impossible to fight a raid boss dummy without HS hitting another target.

    I'm not sure if switching my enchants and reforges to DPS would get me to the required 37K DPS, even with Vengeance factored in, but I'm not switching anything as long as I'm doing random battlegrounds for conquest points as blood. I'd much rather be immortal against 3-4 guys while I'm still getting conquest for my axe.

    As I said, if you're similarly geared, I think Patchwerk might be a bit too tough a cookie. Not sure.

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    Sorry Sydänyö, I've phrased my post like a dick head and been abit more confrontational than I would of liked. I do the clear in DPS gear with Blood spec so from my own experience I can say Mastery stacking isn't that important. My main spec is 2h Frost so I'm rocking alot of Haste and only about 1200 Mastery, also use RC too which is abit of kilter but seems to leave me with 0 free GCDs so I'm a fan tbh.....wouldn't recommend for min/max tanking like but for soloing old content it seems at the very least viable.

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    Patchwerk is easy, i was soloing him with no effort as a blood tank at 85, Gluth is also fairly easy, his damage doesn't get past blood shield, you can sit there all day with 1hp

    im more curious how people get past Feugen and Stalagg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    Patchwerk is easy, i was soloing him with no effort as a blood tank at 85, Gluth is also fairly easy, his damage doesn't get past blood shield, you can sit there all day with 1hp

    im more curious how people get past Feugen and Stalagg
    I'm quite sure you're talking about Naxx10 as opposed to 25 which most people seem to be focusing on here. Fauhen and Stalagg are easy, the tesla coil starts nuking you but it's not anything major and was easily survivable even at 85.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    Patchwerk is easy, i was soloing him with no effort as a blood tank at 85, Gluth is also fairly easy, his damage doesn't get past blood shield, you can sit there all day with 1hp

    im more curious how people get past Feugen and Stalagg
    The dps required for 25m is significantly higher.
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    I did Gluth 25 man last night as 80 DK without using Shadowmeld trick, even thought ironicly I'm a Night Elf so I guess I'm among the first to do it
    I realise that stats are different at 90 but maybe I can provide some useful info. I did it using almost 100% avoidance gear while maximizing haste and crit
    Basicly you need ALOT of dps, easily 100k+ sustainable, there are some workarounds tho.
    For the first 7 minutes just stand there doing nothing, spamming useless deathstrikes and normal rotation, and allowing zombies to attack you from the back. Their attacks put a debuff on you which when stacked to 100(max) increases your damage taken by 10000 (before armor, etc) and then after 7 minutes Gluth will enrage. By that point you will have 10 stack debuff of his Mortal Wounds so you can't heal yourself, you're rellying on your blood shield. After 15-20 seconds of enraged Gluth and zombies attacking me I had 70-80k vengance and still couldn't damage gluth below 90%. That's when you pop Army of the Dead! The ap scaling will make their attacks damage gluth for ALOT forcing him to eat all zombies he can find near himself. Using army and other dps cooldowns I managed to get him to 40% hp but since he had eaten most of zombies around him he doesn't heal like he used to and had to wait for the new zomies to approach him so dps requirment goes down slightly, and you continue to damage him as much as you while trying to keep blood shield up. Overall fight took me just over 10 minutes, or 3 and a half minutes of actual fight during which I downed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vereesà View Post
    Has anyone specifically farmed trash for the Silent Crusader? If so, which mobs do you suggest and do the mobs there grant Dark Succor upon killing them?
    I got it this week, trash leading up to Patchwerk. Was actually hoping Inevitable Defeat would drop but Silent Crusader was a nice consolation prize. I did not receive DarK Succor. It was on the scientists where I got the wep.

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