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Recently i've implemented one new feature, allowing to see guild tries set up in almost real time. This system aggregated some data and i've put it into charts. Charts conains only those data rows, which have 400+ characters to analyse (aggregator went out of Ru-Wow few days ago, so need to scan a lot for a first time):
Mogu'shan 10 normal
Mogu'shan 10 heroic
Mogu'shan 25 normal
Mogu'shan 25 heroic
The Stone Guard
Feng
Gara'jal
Spirit Kings
Elegon
Will of The Emperor
Heart of Fear 10 Normal
Heart of Fear 25 Normal
Heart of Fear 25 heroic
Zo'lok
Ta'yak
Garalon
Mel'jarak
Un'sok
Shek'zeer
You may check progressing set up like here: http://wowraider.ru/guilds/us/Illida...gressing%22%7D
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Thread: Relative T14 bosses difficulty
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2012-11-16, 06:08 PM #1Blademaster
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Relative T14 bosses difficulty
Last edited by hurricup; 2012-11-16 at 06:59 PM.
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2012-11-16, 06:14 PM #2Herald of the Titans
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Yes, but what does it all mean Bazzle? Do the % indicate the point at which it was a wipe or a clear? I don't understand how the data is being presented.
*Edit* ah, I see now the descriptions at the bottom. So, new question. What do you draw from this? Keep in mind, these are the two "easier" raids of the tier.Last edited by Edlarel; 2012-11-16 at 06:17 PM.
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2012-11-16, 06:16 PM #3Field Marshal
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GRAPHS! All the colored lines go up and to the right... this leads me to believe that things are happening....
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2012-11-16, 06:20 PM #4Blademaster
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Relative difficulty of bosses in raid and 25vs10 ppl content balance.
And these graphs are only byproduct of set-up analyser.Last edited by hurricup; 2012-11-16 at 06:36 PM.
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2012-11-16, 06:32 PM #5Bloodsail Admiral
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Interesting. The relative boss difficulty I see on your graphs squares with what I've been intuiting from the relative number of help-me threads. It's neat to see it the way you present it. I look forward to what results you get when more people have downed heroic HoF and done Terrace.
Thank you for these.
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2012-11-16, 06:35 PM #6Herald of the Titans
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Just to let you know, your Will of the Emperor data is missing. Where the chart should be is an Imperial Vizier chart.
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2012-11-16, 06:59 PM #7Blademaster
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Thank you. Updated post.
Originally Posted by Aoyi
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2012-11-16, 10:20 PM #8The Patient
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The easier a boss is, the higher it's colored line will be on the graph. Originally Posted by Krakau
For instance, his data seems to suggest that normal mode Amber-Shaper is easier on 25 man than on 10 man.
Likewise, his data seems to suggest that normal mode Will of the Emperor is slightly easier on 10 man than on 25 man.Last edited by apinksquash; 2012-11-16 at 10:24 PM.
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2012-11-17, 02:56 AM #9Blademaster
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Brilliant explanation. Thanks. Originally Posted by apinksquash
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2012-11-17, 05:13 AM #10I am Murloc!
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Um I don't see anything - Firefox issues?
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2012-11-17, 05:23 AM #11High Overlord
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Very interesting. I would love to see more data like this for both later raids and these raids later in the teir.
Thanks for Collating this.
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2012-11-17, 05:38 AM #12Mechagnome
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This data would be more useful if it only took into account like top 200 or top 300 guilds for each raid size and elminated outlayers.
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2012-11-17, 02:51 PM #13Pandaren Monk
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It's an interesting way of setting it up. My biggest concern would be the differences in the sample pools. Originally Posted by hurricup
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2012-12-10, 06:04 PM #14Bloodsail Admiral
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Very interesting stuff, ty.
Obviously it leaves out any question of potential skill differences between the groups, but it's a clear indicator of which bosses people are finding more difficult & it is a strong suggestion that the balancing is fairly good on a pure wipes-to-progress level.
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2012-12-10, 06:13 PM #15High Overlord
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I'd like to see data for top100/1000 guilds, is that possible?
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2012-12-10, 06:17 PM #16Dreadlord
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Interesting to see how 10 and 25 heroics are close
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2012-12-10, 07:38 PM #17High Overlord
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Is there anywhere where this data is posted that I can have access to? Or would you consider a feature where guilds could see/plot where they are located on the curves?
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2012-12-10, 08:41 PM #18Field Marshal
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Awesome graphs!
The graphs for MV normal are fun. The data dramatically under-estimates the difficulty Will of the Emperor relative to the other bosses in the raid, because Elegon prevents weak raids from advancing until they're vastly over-geared.
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2012-12-18, 06:52 AM #19Blademaster
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Unfortunatelly Blizz decided to hide this data: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...41863?page=1#4
For now... I can render all aggregated data atm.
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2012-12-18, 08:15 AM #20Mechagnome
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Are there really guides having 300(!) tries on heroic spirit kings for their first kill?
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