So i'm quite baffled by posts like yours, that call for the expulsion of some specific eastern or southern European countries from the EU when there really is no reason to do it. Also, the entire point of the EU is UNITY. Kicking a country from it would TOTALLY refute the ENTIRE purpose of what the EU represents. It's like some people around here have issues realizing the EU isn't ONLY an economic union.
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Last edited by Wikiy; 2012-11-16 at 11:54 PM.
Let it fall. People are obsessed with this idea of turning Europe into a single country.
"Oh but we need it to face the rest of the world's economies". Isn't that the purpose of the european trade agreement or whatever it's called
Clearly Obama's fault.
I wonder how long it is going to be before they seriously consider dissolving the EU and going back to being completely autonomous. The one continent currency and semi-country thing is all well and good, but it doesn't work in reality when some of the limbs are so weak (I absolutely support the same pruning here in the US which I really feel would function better as several smaller countries).
I think their governments should simply spend more money to boost their economy....
Clearly you guys just need a good dose of American capitalism and no more of that commie bullshit like obama is trying to put on us!
Either you have a united europe, or you don't. Trying to please everyone has been an unmitigated disaster - Germany thinks it's better off without Europe but wants to control it. The UK wants out but wants the benefits. Nobody is "leeching" off anyone because the rules are the same for every country.
Times are tough, and blaming the eu simply for existing is ridiculous when you fail to consider other factors.
Not that I see a benefit to it's existance however.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. -CS Lewis
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When survival is the goal, it's into the spider hole!
The US is currently spending 10 percent of its tax revenue ro pay intrest alone. That nummer is expected to double within a decade. The exonomic regulation needed to bring back your public finances to a point where you are no longer facing bankrupcy within 2 decades is almost eaual to what Greece is currently gong through....
So for you guys crying about the EU being in a bad state, no country is " too Big to fáil"
For all the complaints I hear about how the US could fix its problems by spending less on the military, the EU is in far worse shape, and their military budget is much smaller.
The EU is in bad shape for other reasons, if anything austerity seems to be the main culprit.