It's like McDonald's selling mystery food boxes that guarantee one sandwich, 2 sides, and a drink. Just because everyone wants the McRib doesn't mean that they are gambling when they get a Quarter Pounder instead. In this respect, they aren't paying the money for the chance, they are literally paying money for a product. If the terms weren't so specific beforehand, or there was a possibility to get nothing, then it would fall under gambling and could be prosecuted where it is prohibited.
As with all things that have similarities to gambling, the best thing to do is opt out wherever, and whenever, you can. It's obvious from this thread alone what low self control can result in, and it's not pretty. It may not be gambling 'exactly' but you see the addictive behavior, even in this very thread, "Just one more, just one more and I'll get what I want!" Somehow that just doesn't seem healthy to me, and while I accept that the individual needs to be responsible.. it still doesn't make me think fondly of such systems, nor the creators of said systems.
It's not just this thread, you can see a few official forums posts, and dialogues elsewhere, with people obviously unable to stop themselves from buying more. I'm unsure of whether I should be sad, disgusted or mildly amused.
Wow there are some high horses in here...Thread was mostly a joke, I think the Cartel Packs are a ton of fun and something to spend my free coins on every month, but its not like I am about to lose my house over them or something.
People need to lighten up, especially the trolls that don't even play the game.
WoW having more subs than SWTOR is the same thing as Justin Bieber having more youtube plays than Tupac. Just because its more popular doesn't mean its good.
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@legal or not
I'm working/ living in a country gambling of any kind is illegal, however it's working.
Pretty soon the kid's out like 25 bucks and only has a small pink stuffed bear to show for it that's probably available at the local Dollar Tree store for a buck.
That's how Cartel Coins work pretty much. Here, you get a rare item or two, with the chance that you can get something badass like this mask from KOTOR2 or the monkey thingy from Episode 6. But not this time. Please insert coin here to try your luck again.
Pretty soon you're out 100 bucks and you have like 10 of the same rare item.
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I work. I make a paycheck. I spend my money that I make by working at my job on whatever I choose. Any problem anyone has with what I do with my money has nothing to do with me and is their problem. Not mine. It feels better to be a have than a have not. Thank goodness for idiot human beings that give me loads of money to do things they could easily do themselves. Making money off of peoples' laziness is awesome. They pay for my hobby.
Anyway, have a good day, I'm off to buy more Cartel Packs. I guess it's time to pay my sub too.
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I suspect the Cartel is a way to recoup the money they spent, since the only way to even play this game F2P is to buy the unlocks and other stuff. However i did use my coins on the packs got f-all and a mount and some banners, still no party jawa though...
In all it's something i wouldn't have gotten prior and something i don't see myself spending a lot of money on either. I'm just not interested in vanity items or xp boosts since over leveling makes the challenge pretty much disappear :/
I'm kinda meh on the whole thing, hoping bioware isn't just recouping money like i think they are and actually try to make swtor better. I can't wait for the next set of chapters XD
Though I am currently leveling a new character, completely forgot the planet stories so at least i can have fun with that and see if the end game is any good :P
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The party jawa came by mail for being subscribed when f2p hits (or am I wrong?).
However I would have prefered the tythonian lightsaber to be main and offhand.. so I'll use one for my juggernaut and another for my inquisitor.
I ended up with 950 coins when I logged in after the patch and the only thing i've purchased so far is a cool level 43 epic cloak for my sniper. The stats were good, but it was mostly the look of it I liked it.
Ultimately, I'm hoping to see more cosmetic gear I can buy, especially if I can use it at lower levels. That might keep me subbed if I decide not to raid with my snioper when I get her to 50 (Which I'm half considering. If I can find a team that doesn't conflict with my wow raid team)
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Just because it's working doesn't mean it's legal.
thats the most fitting comparison yet. Though buying extra coins with real money for cartel packs is much more stupid than both casino-gambling for real money and trading card packs.
I really think the only decent use for these packs is for subbers who have no other use for their free cartel points. but in the end I guess bioware will earn a serious amount of money with them because of "gamblers". I just hope the money is used to improve the game and not just to fill EA's pockets.
Are we seriously arguing over if Cartel Packs are illegal gambling or not?
Cut it out. This is a stupid argument all together. Its chance - which is completely different than 'gambling'. How is this different than buying mounts in WoW for $25? Sure, the mount is guaranteed but the Cartel Packs also guarantee items. It tells you what you might get in them. Stop this useless bickering.