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  1. #201
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    Get him a trial account, see how he gets on, then upgrade each expac so he doesnt go hell for leather to 90 and gets to enjoy the older content a bit, no need to blow a ton of money right away.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by McLockhart View Post
    Buy him an account and play with him. It will give you a unique opportunity to spend some quality time with your child. Consider it an option that most other parents, who care for their children, would kill to have.
    In my personal opinion nothing beats spending time with your kids irl.
    By this I mean be physically involved/engaged and not online in a virtual world.

    I took my son out and just kick ball or riding a bycicle. This is what I mean by doing stuff together irl.
    At the same time you won't be teaching your kid that interaction is something that is done true a computer, they have a lot of stuff which does precisely that already.
    So in my personal opinion if you want to spend time with your kid, do it in a different way than online.

    I know that if the parent is a gamer, he/she would like to spend time in the game... but as a parent, it is about the children and their need, and not your's.

    I am not saying that playing games together is not good.... it is, if dosed properly; the only thing I am saying is there are better ways.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Moontalon View Post
    Books don't "teach you responsibility" either. They're just a pastime, like video games. Don't blame the game because you couldn't control your gaming. :/
    I didn't say that books teach you responsibility. I said that there could be better things done and books is one of them. Books have benefits, they improve your reading comprehension. And I'm not saying buy books like Harry Potter.

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    Try and balance it with something you do together OUT of wow, take him the park and kick a ball around (or perhaps something a bit more interesting like racquets - bats like VERY oversized table tennis bats and try and keep a rally going, you get a nice bit of hand-eye co-ordination as well as running around like a loon, normally played on the beach but works in the park too) or get him into cycling. So long as you aren't encouraging your child to follow you into obesity etc (not assuming but it's one angle) then I don't see an issue.

    Kids I think though likely get enough encouragement to sit fairly inert already without help but the bonding opportunity is a fair balance for it. I'll still be gaming (given chance) when I have kids (next couple of years) but they'll be getting a fair variety of exercise to try too (rock climbing, cycling, racquets, gym when old enough etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TidesOfBlood View Post
    I didn't say that books teach you responsibility. I said that there could be better things done and books is one of them. Books have benefits, they improve your reading comprehension. And I'm not saying buy books like Harry Potter.
    Video games have benefits too (improved hand-eye coordination, better reflexes, decision making, team cooperation, even math and reading (GASP) skills), but I suppose we can ignore all of those because they're video games? Video games are not the demon popular media would like to make them out to be. There are positives to it as well as the negatives, just like all things, and the negatives are something largely in the user's control. I don't see why you seem to think video games need to be the bad guy. Why not video games and books? It doesn't have to be one or the other.

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    as many disadvantages this would cause. i think you should buy him his account for several reasons:

    1) try to teach him to maintain a reasonable amount of hours to play and balance between real life and game life.

    2) get him to join a high end guild because that way he can have a bigger community he can learn from

    3) related to 2), it will also teach him how to work with a team in a much smoother way.

  7. #207
    Better buy him a bike, football / karate club membership. Or something appropriate to hes age. I'm sure he will thank you if you buy him hes OWN wow account, but I bet he won't brag with it in school.
    Exposing your kid into such a...diverse community as wows, will ultimately be detrimental to hes well being. Wait until he is at least 15-16 y.o and more mature. It would be ashame if he wasted hes time playing online games, instead of going outside and play with hes friends.
    That is my honest opinion, but you are the one that will choose in the end.

  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by TidesOfBlood View Post
    I wouldn't. I would buy him books instead. Give him a different path. Your child could do so much better without WoW in my opinion. At least I know I would of.
    Books, about... WoW.

    I deeply regret that I didn't listen to my father when he kept telling me to stop playing the warcraft franchise. All those years I consider wasted because i could have been doing so much better in school (high school and college). WoW doesn't teach you responsibility. The whole "take things into moderation" isn't really much of an argument.

    People may berate me for saying all this but it's what you decide in the end. Just know that whatever you do from that point on, your actions will have consequences, good or bad depending on what you make your child do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synstir View Post
    I know that if the parent is a gamer, he/she would like to spend time in the game... but as a parent, it is about the children and their need, and not your's.
    No its not; its both. It goes both ways. If you only interact with your child in doing what the way they prefer and that alone then your child will be coddled. You make it sound like the kid wouldn't play WoW voluntarily (like my chuckle to the ore farming dad) which isn't my impression of OP at all; he genuinely wants to gift the game to his kid as present for the kid to have fun (together with dad).
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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Rheckameohs View Post
    I've been playing WoW for a good six years now, and since day one my oldest son has watched me play. When he was younger, I used to sit him on my lap while my guild and I raided, and recently I began allowing him to play on my account here and there. Since he's turning 13 next week though, would you say it would be a good idea for me to go ahead and finally buy him his own account?
    Brings back memories My eldest had been watching me since day one aswell, he was nine at the time and i let him make some characters and play a bit. I found it a good way to get his social skills going at an early age, ofcourse i told him not to do anything like tell people his real name age or where he lives or anything but he loved it! He is 16 now and has his own account, still plays regularly but knows when to trake brakes for h/w and school etc. Imo its a good idea but its up to you ofc
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    I let my Brother play my account when he was 7, he now has his own account and is doing perfectly fine.

    Hes 11 now, and if anything wow has helped strengthen his vocabulary, way of thinking and problem solving. He'll quite happily sit and research his class, work out his reforges and rotations by himself, hes even went to raid quite a number of raids and is the best warrior of his guild.

    In my opinion, age in WoW means nothing, Ive met a ton of younger players both guildies and non-guildies that are more mature than most adults Ive played with

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    yes mate, but slap all filters on you can, and keep an eye on him

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  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzow View Post
    I let my Brother play my account when he was 7, he now has his own account and is doing perfectly fine.

    Hes 11 now, and if anything wow has helped strengthen his vocabulary, way of thinking and problem solving. He'll quite happily sit and research his class, work out his reforges and rotations by himself, hes even went to raid quite a number of raids and is the best warrior of his guild.

    In my opinion, age in WoW means nothing, Ive met a ton of younger players both guildies and non-guildies that are more mature than most adults Ive played with
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  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by TidesOfBlood View Post
    I wouldn't. I would buy him books instead. Give him a different path. Your child could do so much better without WoW in my opinion. At least I know I would of.

    I deeply regret that I didn't listen to my father when he kept telling me to stop playing the warcraft franchise. All those years I consider wasted because i could have been doing so much better in school (high school and college). WoW doesn't teach you responsibility. The whole "take things into moderation" isn't really much of an argument.

    People may berate me for saying all this but it's what you decide in the end. Just know that whatever you do from that point on, your actions will have consequences, good or bad depending on what you make your child do.
    Games and movies is mainly what taught me the English I know today, not school or books. (Gasp, you can actually learn something from games?!) In todays society gaming is ever growing, and you risk being left out of the loop of class mates and the like if you don't play video games, books are becoming more and more a relic of the past and only really needed for study, not to pass the time.

    I say buy him an account, but as others said make sure to give him a restriction of how many hours per day he is allowed to play, and that he always have to prioritize school. I have a friend who let gaming get the better of him, fortunately he saw this as well and went to something called "game over" for three months to help him tag it down a bit so he could focus more on the important things in life again.

    Games, like with everything, must be taken in moderation. Like the Swedish saying "lagom är bäst".

    For what it's worth, I started playing WoW when I was 13-14, (I'm 21 now), my brother introduced me to it and it even brought us closer together as siblings. I have also made a lot of great friends thanks to WoW, and met loads of interesting people within Europe. I can't say I have anything but good things to say about my experiences with the game.
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    I would encourage him to take on more productive activities, but that's just my opinion.

    That said, my dad introduced me to games on our Commodore 64 back in the day, so who am I to talk :P
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    he is old enough at 13 - I mean jon snow joined the nights watch at 14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Moon View Post
    I would encourage him to take on more productive activities, but that's just my opinion.

    That said, my dad introduced me to games on our Commodore 64 back in the day, so who am I to talk :P
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    I feel like this thread needs a poll.

    At any rate I say yes. For many of the reasons already mentioned. I feel that not only does wow help develop a young minds reflexes, critical thinking and problems solving. Honestly it is such a social rich environment that it would foster development of social skills at a much better rate than anything else. Not to mention in a game the pressure of peers in school and the over abundance of physical abuse from bullies is removed as well as becoming the social pariah of the school. In most guilds I have been in everyone talks to everyone about a variety of different subjects. This leads to the other point of being exposed to whats happening in the world i.e. news, sports, foreign affairs. Additionally there is the chance to play with people from other countries and help to unite our bitter broken world.

    I say yes.

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    Do it. I grew up watching my dad do Oynxia and Molten Core, and asking questions constantly. About half a year after release, he let me and my older brother(8 and 11, respectively) make characters. We didn't do much, and had time limiters on everything we did, but it was amazingly fun. If you're worried about time spent, just use the parental controls. And believe me, unless he's been home schooled, he's heard everything that trade chat has to offer.

    In fact, if he wants a leveling partner, drop me a message! I'd be more than happy to show a newbie the ropes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    And look where that got ya. Owning your very own wizard in Diablo 3!!

    The glory this brings is truely understated!!

    Their own WIZARD!!! in DIABLO 3!!!! There, much better

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    Video games taught me how to be a teamplayer and a leader at the same time.
    13 is not a terrible age to start playing, I was only 4 months into 11 when I started playing, and yeah I was a complete tard back then because I had noone to teach me how to do stuff properly.
    One of my friends played WoW a few years ago, he got to 2.1k 3v3 arena rating at age 12/13, and that's not to say that anyone can get that rating.
    He was a fast thinker and a good communicator, if not abit cocky.
    He started playing at age 10 or 11 too, recieved lots of gameplay tips from his big brother (who I played with before) and myself, and within a year he was better than both of us in PvP.

    At that age your kid probably wants to 0wn up in sum BEEGEES instead of doing coordinated PvE, that -should- be out of his attention span.
    Not to say that it is, but with CoD existing today I can't see how new teenagers would want to do some things as slow paced as raiding.

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