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    Help me buy/build a system, please

    TLDR: What's the best tower I can buy/build for WoW for roughly $1,000 USD.

    Current Build~
    Computer-
    Manufacturer: Acer
    Model #: AM5630-U5209A
    Link if possible: N/A

    Case-
    Manufacturer: Acer

    Ram-
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Model #: Unknown
    Speed: Unknown
    Size: 4gigs installed, 3gigs usable (Vista 32bit)
    Link if possible: N/A

    CPU-
    Manufacturer: Intel
    Model #: Core2 Quad Q6600
    Speed: 2.40 gigahertz
    Link if possible: N/A

    PSU-
    Manufacturer: Corsair
    Model #: GS600
    Wattage: 600
    Link if possible: http://www.corsair.com/gs600w.html

    GPU-
    Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Model #: GeForce GTX 470
    DxDiag: ???
    Link if possible: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...eforce-gtx-470

    Mobo-
    Manufacturer: Acer
    Model #: EG31M R01-C2
    Link if possible: N/A

    Operating System-
    Name: Windows Vista Home Premium
    Bit: 32

    Resolution-
    Size: 1920x1080

    Sound Card-
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Model #: Unknown
    Channels: Unknown
    DxDiag: ???
    Link if possible: N/A

    Network Card-
    Manufacturer: Unknown
    Model #: Unknown
    Wired or Wireless: Wired
    Link if possible: N/A

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    Now what is it you want....

    Upgrade or New Computer: New Computer, willing to reuse anything worthwhile

    Upgrade on what (you hope): Everything but peripherals

    Willing to Self Build or a Pre-Built: Either

    How much you want to spend: roughly $1,000 US

    How much you can spend: roughly $1,000 US

    What all you plan to use it for: mostly WoW, some email and light browsing

    What Operating system you want to use & Bit: Win7/8 64bit

    What Resolution you hope to be in: 1920x1080 (current)

    What Settings do you Want & how much FPS: as high as possible with at least 60 fps in WoW, preferably more, of course

    What Country are you from: United States

    What can you re-use: monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset

    Network will be wired or wireless: wired

    Any Additional Info Here: No major problems with my current setup. Had it for a few years and ready for an upgrade. I've perused the most recent setup of the month by chaud and figure something around the Narwhal specs are what I'll end up with. I'd be happy buying pre-built but have no aversion to building my own if it would be significantly less expensive as my husband and I have done so before.

    I've checked out ibuypower.com as it was recommended to me by a few folks locally. I managed to build something close to "Narwhal" that includes an OS, shipping and a warranty for an estimated $1,286.25 which is a little higher than where I would like to be. I've pasted the specs of that build below but I am welcome to any and all opinions, of course.

    1 x Case ( NZXT Source 210 Gaming Case - Blue )
    0 x Case Lighting ( None )
    0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
    0 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
    1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K )
    0 x iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( None )
    1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155] - Standard 120mm Fan )
    1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
    1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - Single Card )
    1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
    1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE] - Razer Arctosa Gaming Keyboard - Free with purchase of any desktop )
    1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card - Free with purchase of Intel Desktop )
    1 x Motherboard ( ASUS P8Z77-V LX )
    0 x Intel Smart Response Technology ( None )
    1 x Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 - Free Upgrade to 750 Watt Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 ($20 Savings) )
    1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 2 TB WD Black HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
    1 x Data Hard Drive ( 120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD - Single Drive )
    1 x Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
    0 x 2nd Optical Drive ( None )
    0 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( None )
    0 x Meter Display ( None )
    0 x USB Expansion ( None )
    1 x Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
    1 x Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
    1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
    0 x Monitor ( None )
    0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
    0 x Speaker System ( None )
    0 x Video Camera ( None )
    1 x Advanced Build Options ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound)
    1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis )
    1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Advanced - Power Package (Individually Sleeved 24-pin ATX, 8-pin CPU, and SATA Drive Power Cabling) )
    1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Advanced - Video Package (Individually Sleeved 8-pin and 6-pin PCI-E VGA Power Cabling) )
    1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Basic Pro Wiring )
    0 x Case Engraving Service ( None )
    1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )
    1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

    Thanks!

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-18 at 06:00 PM ----------

    Just noticed the "Computer Build / Upgrade Help" Sub-forum, could a mod possibly move this post there? Thanks!
    Last edited by Scrimshaw; 2012-11-18 at 11:52 PM.

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    Better GPU, roughly the same price. You can save a good bit by buying things on sale. If you live near a CompUSA or Microcenter there are cheap CPUs there. The code EMCJJJA35 takes $20 off of the case price at Newegg. The games the GPU comes with can be sold if you don't want them. You can grab Windows 8 for ~$40. You can get a slower 2TB drive for ~$100 if you are only storing media or other non speed limited things. Lots of ways to save! 16GB RAM is on sale today for $40 with the code HARDOCP1114C.

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.29 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.24 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Storage: OCZ Agility 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi Tower ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Last edited by chaud; 2012-11-19 at 09:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    Why an Agility 4 over a Samsung 830/840 or Vertex 4?

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    Cost cutting mostly. Just about any SSD is much faster than a spinning disk, and it doesn't sound like Scrimshaw is pushing for the fastest things out there. I wouldn't pay $93 for it though. The 256GB version was on sale for $130 AR last week. All about those sales if you want to save money!

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    Thanks, appreciate the feedback!

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-19 at 09:25 PM ----------

    Would there be any detriment in reusing my existing power supply and HD (as a data drive secondary to a new SSD in the new PC)?

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    Reusing those items should be fine. It won't draw anywhere near 600W.

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    Looking at two setups, all being equal aside from...

    1 x Case ( NZXT Phantom Full Tower Gaming Case - Red )
    1 x Processor ( AMD FX-8150 CPU (8x 3.60GHz/8MB L2 Cache) - FREE Upgrade to FX-8350 8-Core CPU )
    1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Dual Radiator - 2x Standard 120mm Fan )
    1 x Motherboard ( ASUS M5A97 -- AMD 970 )

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    is $118.70 USD more than
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    1 x Case ( NZXT Source 210 Gaming Case - Blue )
    1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K )
    1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155] - Standard 120mm Fan )
    1 x Motherboard ( ASUS P8Z77-V LK -- 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0 )


    Which would you recommend?

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    3570K is significantly better.

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