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  1. #201
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    Childish isn't the word.

    When MoP got announced, I immediatly felt it wouldn't please me, and it didn't. I don't hate it either, but it just feels too different to me. (Even though I usually welcome change with open arms)

    To be fair, I didn't really like vanilla, when it was more about the Horde/Alliance conflict, and I still don't like it. I always had the most fun when fighting against the legion, or the scourge, including in the original WCs. But it's just me, and I can totally understand some people like it. (Or hate it)

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  2. #202
    Honestly, everyone who knocks on Mysts for being childish really aught to read over the famous quote by C.S. Lewis and take a good hard look at themselves:

    “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

    Why are you so afraid to be seen playing a "childish" game?

  3. #203
    Childish..? Not so much.

    Just ridiculously stupid and way off base to what hooked me to the game originally.
    It came to the point where there was no way I could support that kind of continued development after cataclysm.

    After 6+ years it was clearly time to move on.
    Some parts might be Ok or even great but the overall game is severely lacking.

  4. #204
    I think WoW in general is childish. The game is holding your hand the whole time. But I still enjoy it.

    I don't think MoP is childish on it's own. It's not like the panda's are hugging you 24/7 or something and those sha's look pretty evil.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    Honestly, everyone who knocks on Mysts for being childish really aught to read over the famous quote by C.S. Lewis and take a good hard look at themselves:
    Smart people use their own brain and form opinion based on observation and judgement, others resort to quotes from smart people and don't think for themselves.

    you cannot even spell properly.

    Keep it civil, please
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    Quote Originally Posted by orissa View Post
    I totally do.

    I mean seriously, the Sha are like big black spiky, smoky seseme street characters. And the mantid are so cute and huggable (if they don't impale you.) Oh and themes of war, violence and dark emotions are a good fit for 5 year old children. I read my children Lovecraft every night before bed. They love it. And stay awake in fear for hours crying.
    wow you got some serious issues

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    No absolutely not, nor do I understand why people say it's childish. I'm not going to go into too much detail but if you want to call this expansion childish then there is something wrong with you, seriously. I mean have these people played WoW before? The whole game is childish if you look at it. There's magic, wizards, fantasy inspired monsters, huge swords and axes, and all kinds of stuff that I could call childish. If Pandarens are the only thing to make this expansion childish then those people are retarded, plain and simple. And really I don't know how they can still say its childish because if they have been playing the expansion, it's anything but childish. With the whole war between the Horde and Alliance and then the battle with the Sha. If that stuff is childish to them then they should just stop playing video games or just stick to their online FPS games.

    This whole "this game is childish" shit is getting so old and tiring to talk about. You know what i think is childish? People who think just because they're adults they automatically say a game is childish because it doesn't have guns and shooting terrorists with chunks of flesh and blood coming off them.
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    For your health.

  8. #208
    It's like watching and old chinese martial arts movie. It's scope is serious,but it has a lighthearted feel to it. So in my oppinion the managed to capture the chinese feel to it.

  9. #209
    I'm not a fan of Chinese culture, but I am a fan of WoW. I'm playing just to enjoy my time with friends and to have something fun to do. Is the game childish? Not really, but it is rated T for Teen. So, most 13 year old kids probably like Bruce Lee, and Chuck Norris, and KungFu Panda. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, it is just a game. If it bothers you that much, just unsub and move on to something more exciting. It is ok to be bored with something after a few years, but try not to ruin it for those of us who still really enjoy the game regardless of its direction

  10. #210
    What I never understood is why "Pandas" suddenly make it childish (or even Hozen). If those things make the game childish then this game has always been childish.

    You mean we have an anthropomorphic animal race? Well the Tauren say "Hi".

    You might be thinking, "But the Tauren are based on minotaurs! That makes them super serious!", I don't know about you but I never read in mythology that minotaurs lived in teepees with totems like stereotypical Native Americans. They even say "How!" when they greet you and have massive "peace pipes" in some of their structures.

    But then we have races like the Hozen, whose manurisims are just silly, right? Well that's great considering in vanilla we had Kobolds, who wear candles on their heads and yell "You no take candle!" in broken English. Lets not forget everyone's favorite murlocs, who speak in ridiculous "gurgle speak". How about the ogres with two heads that comedicly argue with each other about everything or poop on the ground? SUPER SERIOUS!

    "But Groc!" you might say, "It's not the same because the Pandaren are cutsy and whimsical! None of those races are cutsy!" Oh really? Well then I guess you must have been playing so long you didn't notice the Gnome race, the one with cutsy whimsy feel, that ride on top of mechanic chickens, and make whacky technology like a "World Enlarger". I tell you, vanilla was SUPER SERIOUS!

    Stop saying this expansion is childish. If this expansion is "childish" then the whole game should have always been "childish" to you. The truth is you just don't like Pandaren, admit that and stop bringing up the tired "childish" argument.

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Grocalis View Post
    The truth is you just don't like Pandaren, admit that and stop bringing up the tired "childish" argument.
    I'm a cutesy Gnome and I approve this message.

  12. #212
    People who find anything childish in a negative sense of the word are people who're usually younger themselves, in the middle of their puberty or they haven't outgrown it - it's a display of their insecurity with their own maturity because they desperately, like teenagers, want everyone to accept them as adults and doing anything that they deem "childish" goes against this.

    I never found pandaren as such childish. Out of place, sure. I always disliked pandaren, since WCIII that guy would piss me off so much. There's nothing childish about it, though, not in the sense of the word people are using it (to indicate something "below their level"). The question if it's also for children: sure, this game also has children as audience (before you protest, remember that anyone younger than 18 is a child, and players age 13 or 14, sometimes even younger, definitely are). In that sense the whole game can be deemed "childish", in the literal sense of the word ("for children").

    But like always Blizzard did a great job and just like my hate for goblins turned it into love, I have now a panda shaman and a panda monk.

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    They made the game look so childish because they wanted to please the Chinese authorities, so they can allow them to run the game in China too. Remember the Wotlk censorship? All of the those bones/skulls transformed into crates and stuff, they even prohibited the game i think and blizz lost lots of subs.

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    its the most 'childish' in an overall idea of an expansion, simply because it's about slowing down and being the "rest before the storm"...but it isn't a childish expansion at all...manifestations of negative feelings are not childish...they're scary.

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    Playing through Townlong, Dread Wastes and to a lesser extent Kun-Lai, no. It's arguably the most serious expansion to date.

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  16. #216
    I never thought it would be "childish". I was very much looking forward to it.

    PvE wise, I think it's the best WoW iteration ever. It's more detailed, and has more depth and variety. I find it engaging.

    I am embittered by the state of PvP in this expansion; that's primarily what makes me ambivalent about it. However, I really like the style a lot.

  17. #217
    Those parts of MoP which I feared would be childish turned out to be so. Pandas, fat and / or girly simply do not fit well into a fantasy RPG game. It's childish Pokemon-like stuff. Bliz had so much cool Asian culture to draw upon, but they opted for Pandas. Fail there.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    It's no more childish than it was in 2005... WoW never was an adult oriented game
    While it has never been adult oriented (implying adult content) it has gradually been simplified to help attract a wider & younger audience. The game play has become much more forgiving & casual-friendly over time.
    To answer the OP, I do find parts of the game to be childish. There are many more 'cute' elements to the game in MoP, which I find to be a big contrast versus how Azeroth was presented to the players when the game first came out.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Norjak View Post
    While it has never been adult oriented (implying adult content) it has gradually been simplified to help attract a wider & younger audience. The game play has become much more forgiving & casual-friendly over time.
    To answer the OP, I do find parts of the game to be childish. There are many more 'cute' elements to the game in MoP, which I find to be a big contrast versus how Azeroth was presented to the players when the game first came out.
    yeah like when they changed the whole graphic style from early alpha, switching heavily to the usual cartoony and "childish" warcraft style. vanilla was totally much serious.

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    I started when I was 17 so I considered my self young at the time so ya they always have been bringing them in.

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