I also recommend using this. Ovale will help you learn rotations.
The OP was asking how to use FoF and hes been given some fairly thorough answers. Its up to him to decide if he wants to take the risks, not you.
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The only time that I ever actually use FoF in a fight is where I can either cleave it with 2+ mobs (hope for all crit ticks) and when I'm low on energy but have 3 chi from a previous Jab. It's better to use FoF since it's channeled than use a BoK then go to 0 DPS until you have enough energy again to spam Jab again (If you find yourself being slightly energy starved for a few seconds)
Has anyone seen anything about a future fix for the FoF bug?
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Say your FoF ticks for 50k on a single target. If used against two targets, it'll tick on each for 25k. If used on four targets, it'll tick for 12.5k each.
FoF is a tool to regen energy. It's not a damage loss, nor is it a major damage increase on its own. Using it as a tool to regen energy during uneventful periods is something that makes the Windwalker rotation so interesting, considering how much setup is required to get that energy. Executing a perfect rotation and getting those FoFs off is one of the most satisfying things I've experienced while playing DPS in WoW.
Now, if only they would make FoF a single target ability so I can use it on fights with useless melee targets ala-Spine.
Of course FoF will never net you more energy over a prolonged fight. The point I was making was that it maintains or overcomes BoK damage (even at 4 ticks) and smooths out your rotation by letting you generate a lot of energy safely unlike BoK spam which incentivizes you to stay at or below 40 energy at all times. Considering that, I view it as an energy generation tool even though it technically isn't.
As it is now, using FoF will absolutely result in a damage increase on any fight that allows it, and it will become even more of a damage increase in 5.1 when they fix the tick bug.
FoF is garbage and never worth using if you are over 6kish haste.
Even if it weren't bugged, you still need the stars to align in order to use it. If you cancel it mid-channel for any reason it goes from a slight 1%-2% dps increase to a dps loss. And again, this is assuming it wasn't bugged.
Given the amount of movement in most fights, I find it almost completely useless. I've gotten a couple top 10 parses on WoL without using it at all in the last cpl weeks, so fuck it. It needs a redesign in addition to the bugfix imho.
It has it's moments.
3 Chi, just used RSK, low energy.
Using it is a DPS increase, albeit only very very slightly. Using it at the wrong time even by a split second is very much a DPS loss.
And taking into account that when you hit ~6.1k haste it is bugged and actually cancels 1 tick of the damage (or is this fixed?).
I do use FoF, just not that regularly and I still do quite well for myself.
I think the "Bugged" state of FoF aka not getting five ticks under large haste buffs such as bloodlust, is actually a bug with World of Logs and recording programs, based on my own testing and the Elitist Jerks thread. When i am under Bloodlust it does indeed shorten the channel of Fists of Fury and doesn't increase the rate of ticks, but I have noticed that I still get the fifth tick after my channel bar has ended, as long as I don't instantly use another ability. Its almost like the UI is just displaying improperly, but maybe outside logs are also not counting that hit outside of when you are technically casting it. My ingame combat log also confirms five hits. Keep in mind I am stacking haste and using various attack speed buffs to try this.
It is possible that it is not working the same for everyone, or that is is not working the same way in different game areas (These tests were on a dummy, though I have noted it in arena when there is less going on than a raid) But mainly I would just say before working your whole rotation choices off just what you read on a simcraft of log, go actually try it out, its not that hard to test.