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Aye, if the honor gains were bigger, there would be a LOT less bots. Currently it's too boring to farm.
If you don't like to pvp then don't.
People always complain about the grind taking long. The "grind" taking time only seems that way if your only goal is to get the gear. If you are playing PvP because you enjoy it then it feels like no time at all.
Because you complaining of the current honor grind is laughable compared to the Classic honor grind when it took 2-3 months of grinding non-stop to get a set of gear from PvP, or the honor grind in Burning Crusade when you had to deal with unending warsong games, and EotS and Basin having a point cap of 2000, no random battleground bonus and Call to Arms wasn't all week long, and you wouldn't get honor for losing games.
Even if you lose all your games to a full set of gear, it's much faster than if you had to do the same thing pre-cata, where there were games where you wouldn't get any honor aside from the honor you got from kills, and sometimes not even that because of the old diminishing returns on hks. Get the blue set from the auction house, use the guild standard before a loss, and work harder to carry your team to a win.
Took me 3 months of nolive BGing to get warlord rank and set on my druid, years later i understand that it was (and now is) a horrible design to put ppls on unequal footing in competitive setting. Pretty much reason i can't stand LoL where you've to pay/farm heroes whille in Dota you simply choose what's benifiting for your team. Imo all farming provides is a false sence of achievement that even monkey can get in a period of time so i fully understand ppls who use set&forget bots for such job.
Do you guys remember the honor at the beginning of Cataclysm before they tremendously buffed it? Now that was annoying!
I don't see how anyone thinks its slow. I've done maybe 30 BGs and have 4/5 dreadful, both trinkets, a ring, and working on getting my boots next with my Malev helm coming on Tuesday when I get 1 victory in Arena. The 30 BGs have been with probably more than half losses due to bots and just plain bads.
It's not slow at all. 50 for a loss? 250 for a win? Big understatement, not to mention the daily battleground bonus. Also queue for Tol'Barad every time its up if your faction knows what they are doing and you can get 600 honour from AFKing. I've honour grinded 3 characters so far to full Dreadful and each character took less than a week only playing 1-2 hours a day. Don't forget every conquest item you get is 1 less honor item you need.
It's really more than fast enough, if not even too fast. You can get fully geared in a couple of days. Yes you spent 36 minutes losing and only getting 113 honor but not every game is like, and not every game you lose. Nowadays people want to get everything for free.
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First flaw with your rant, you dont need 30,000 honor, you need exactly 23,500 honor to get full dreadful. 2nd if you have an expectation to get full dreadful in a single day without busting your balls, then you have some really unreasonable expectations. 3rd, a TB win defending is worth 600, a TB loss is worth 200; Wintersgrasp a couple hundred... you can cap your 4k before you even hit 90.
Last edited by Haarvald; 2012-11-19 at 02:46 PM.
Even if you aren't winning at all 300 an hour is a very low number. Mix in any wins and that number doubles or tripples.
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Hey common unless there is some main difference between honor earned in US and EU it doesn't take long at all. This expansion it goes really fast to gear with honor, I've geared so far, without to much effort:
My main, priest for both shadow and disc
Hunter
Mage
: ) Just do random bg, block AV and Isle of horrible fail and try do some battling in the others, it doesn't take very long at all, perhaps 2days per character and you'll have some fun too. Well unless you have the wrong idea and you actually hate pvp and don't want to do it at all, then i suggest you change game
Isle of Terrible Fail
Isle of Fail Quest
Isle of Oh My God How I Hate This
Isle of Frustration
Isle of Take the Docks and Win
Isle of Why are you zerging at the mid?
Isle of...
No words can express my utter hatred to this so called battle ground... May the developer who made this piece of **** suffer eternally in 9th circle of hell.
Sorry for rant. Carry on with the thread.
this is all i see when i read posts about how slow the honor grind is. in fact. its not very slow at all. it took me less than 30 hours of total play time since my holy pally hit 90 to grind a full set of gear. (including my first piece malev)
if your not getting between 700 and 1k honor an hour you should consider making a pre made group?
Still much better than it used to be. Also, buy some of the Contender's gear from the AH before you start grinding out honor so you don't get 2-shotted. It's relatively cheap, has PVP Power and Resilience stats on it, and should be an upgrade over the majority of the greens/blues you accrued from leveling.