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    Quote Originally Posted by vellar View Post
    You might wanna do your research on that cause last time I checked there are less 25 man guilds and more 10 mans. Yet less 10 man guilds have cleared heroic content this tier. I mean basic maths mate 1 person dies in 10 man 10% of your raid is gone and only 1 combat ress means that 10% may be out of action for the rest of the fight. On 25 man there is much less pressure on indavidual players. Before I get burnt here I'm someone that went from a 25 man guild to 10 man I was a class leader in a 25 man guild and in charge of ranged dps, now I lead a 10 man group and I can tell you which I think is harder :P. Further more looking back as far as naxx 25 man was way easier than 10 by a mile just one example for ya.
    Nothing in your post really contradicts what I said
    Established 25m guilds can continue as always, but in the end, shared lockouts was THE catalyst for the "death" of 25mans, that's all. Back when they gave better items, cooler titles and mounts, and the option to also run 10s for additional gear was more than enough to entice guilds to build a 25m team, nowadays the logistic ease of 10ms and lack of enticing rewards makes 10m much more appealing to most guilds.

    Personally I don't really care, I think smaller raid groups are more interesting, two tanks, two-three healers, 5-6 dps, and every single member matters, whereas 25ms are generally the same, slap on a few extra healers and a whole bunch of zerg-dps

    EDIT: A bit surprised no one has noticed this yet, considering how many are apparently commiting seppuku because of getting last years anniversary letter (bug)
    The 8% is useless, yes. 8th anniversary.
    Last year it was 7%. It's just a number-thing, not a significant bonus
    Last edited by MasterHamster; 2012-11-19 at 10:05 AM.
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    I wish with these esports they would finally put more work into pvp

    Also those Chinese chicks dressed as sc2 peeps... *drool
    Last edited by Maelleous; 2012-11-19 at 10:42 AM.

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    I love blizzard sometimes. So much experience and they can still be complete idiots, "we didn't know that making 10 man raids drop the exact same loot and locking them both together would basically kill 25 man raiding even though 8 million people told us it would and now we see that they were right and we were wrong".

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    $105,000 - North America: "Bring It" - Mage Warlock Shaman
    $45,000 - Europe: "Yaspresents" - Mage Warrior Shaman
    $27,000 - Korea: "LG-IM" - Mage Warlock Shaman


    seems like an overpowered combo.....

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    Whelp... I guess they really are underhanded and out of resources to the point where they cant even update an automated message. Kind of makes one wonder how they have enough resources to keep blues around though.

    /sarcasm

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by vellar View Post
    You might wanna do your research on that cause last time I checked there are less 25 man guilds and more 10 mans.
    Yup. Last I checked, 90+% of the guilds doing raids in T14 as tracked on wowprogress were doing so in 10 man mode.
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    8 years old... It shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vellar View Post
    You might wanna do your research on that cause last time I checked there are less 25 man guilds and more 10 mans. Yet less 10 man guilds have cleared heroic content this tier. I mean basic maths mate 1 person dies in 10 man 10% of your raid is gone and only 1 combat ress means that 10% may be out of action for the rest of the fight. On 25 man there is much less pressure on indavidual players. Before I get burnt here I'm someone that went from a 25 man guild to 10 man I was a class leader in a 25 man guild and in charge of ranged dps, now I lead a 10 man group and I can tell you which I think is harder :P. Further more looking back as far as naxx 25 man was way easier than 10 by a mile just one example for ya.
    Well that's not the case for MSV and HoF. My guild has a 25man group that runs tuesday, wednesday and thursday. Not content to leave an instance unfinished 10 people usually get together to finish the lockouts on sunday and monday. Since the 10man groups are always starting on bosses that the 25man group hasn't killed yet, the 10man group is more progressed than the 25. So what usually happens is the 25man kills a boss for the first time and moves on to start working on a boss that we've either killed on 10man or have been working on already. We start working on the 25man version with all the knowledge of the 10man kill or at least attempts and it is definitely harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupture91 View Post
    Oh cry more, there's over 400 pets in the game and you want another one?
    You really made me laugh here.
    You got a very good point.

    But besides that. It's sure lacking some fantasy on Blizzards end now.
    I'm not a complainer, I take the game for how it comes. But this gesture now, this year lacks a lot of love. Since it's basically really just a repetition from last year, including the in-game mail text.

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    I didn't understand the hate for the anniversary bonus. You got a FOS and a week or two of leveling an alt at 8% extra XP. Another pet would have been boring, I have the bear and onyxia. A mount would have been hours of artwork flushed for yet another item in the game that gets a week or two of use, and then people revert to their favorite mount. If they recolored an existing mount people would still have complained - "omg laziness! Game's dying!"

    I would have really liked if the bonus applied an extra 8% for each quest turn-in. That would be about a day less of dailies for all factions over the course of a week, but whatever.

    I do agree, they could have edited that thank you letter a little. Seemed rather phoned in to me, but then again these things are on autopilot anymore so they probably got busy doing other things like fixing bugs. I'm no loyal follower, I criticize them where they need criticizing. Thus far in this expansion however, I have found nothing to complain about.

  11. #51
    if they give a pet: omg, another recolored pet, great anniversary gift
    they don't give you a pet: omg, y u no give us a pet?

    ... i think i'll wait to resub on the 10th anniversary, so i get the 10% tabard >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovamaestro View Post
    if they give a pet: omg, another recolored pet, great anniversary gift
    they don't give you a pet: omg, y u no give us a pet?

    ... i think i'll wait to resub on the 10th anniversary, so i get the 10% tabard >.>
    10 year will actually be totally worth it.

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    WoW's 8th Anniversary
    WoW's 8th Anniversary event is also now live, so be sure to check your mail for the Celebration Package and a familiar letter. You can get the WoW's 8th Anniversary achievement by logging in by December 1st. woop di doo

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    Little bit off topic, but the green headsets they were using in one of the side shots of a team, anyone know what kind they were? I've seen it in Krip's videos and it's been driving me crazy because I'd love to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongler View Post
    Little bit off topic, but the green headsets they were using in one of the side shots of a team, anyone know what kind they were? I've seen it in Krip's videos and it's been driving me crazy because I'd love to buy it.
    Krip's looks like Razer Orcas to me. Just headphones, not a headset. The ones in the team pic look like Krakens.

  16. #56
    25man should give better loot then 10man, no idea why it doesnt. Must feel annoying killing a better boss and still get the same loot as 10man.

  17. #57
    WAT, 19 pulls to WF H Will by Paragon and the next closest is like 45? These guys ARE legit. 19 pulls - that's less than it took my non dumb guild to kill N Rag in FL.

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    That pull count feature is awesome - they should really divide the score by the numbers of average pulls. You can really see who the scrubs on the server are who take 100 attempts to kill Stone Guards and play for 20 hours a week vs the groups killing them in a few tries due to skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaker View Post
    25man should give better loot then 10man, no idea why it doesnt. Must feel annoying killing a better boss and still get the same loot as 10man.
    Why would an easier mode give better loot? That's just silly.

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    congratzzzz!!

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