I don't PvP anymore, it's not because of the class I just don't have the time to anymore.
Middle to bottom of the charts? My raids I'm in close third behind a lock and DK, with our two mages nipping at our heals. I do not claim to be the best hunter out there by any means but if we are middle to bottom of the chart your either in a top end progression group or doing something wrong.
I'm not totally satisfied with where we are right now, but 5.1 and our movement buff should help this quite a bit.
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I'd be interested to see what people deem as "satisfied" according to this poll. So many of the gripes seem to be DPS-related, or asking to have hunters be just as good at XYZ mechanic as every other class so that it's the World of Fair-craft.
im glad my guild lets me play SV cause i dont really like BM. so far i have been able to do decent compared too the rest. although on some fights im clearly lacking.
Satisfied? Yes, but I do feel that in a competitive level we lack a bit of performance compared to other classes.
I do miss playing MM tho :P
Looking at a few stats hunters aren't bad, but not brilliant either. We're mostly middle-to-upper pack, with the exception of a few outright awful fights for hunters. Stone Guards, Will of the Emperor and Garalon are genuinely bad for us. The whole design of the encounters goes against everything hunters are good at.
We have no outrageously OP multi-dotting, no free cleaves and we're not the best (but far from the worst) at single target. We're all-rounders, with no real gimmick that boss encounters make use of. We're not going to be topping the meters any time soon, but we're hardly an embarrassment except for the fights I mentioned.
Loving BM right now, always top dps, would switch back to Survival though if BM was nerfed, i win either way! Also i dont PvP, so dont care about that aspect of the game, to controversial and unbalanced, if i want to do some PvP, i go play Counterstrike.
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Overall, factoring in the current PvE and PvP state of the game, I'm not happy, yet not disappointed with the class right now - I guess I'll say 'no' to this question.
In PvE, we're far from absolutely amazing and being one of the classes that are most desired. My guild is a 6/6 MSV 25HC and 1/6 HOF HC, and raiding seems alright so far, our hunters are all doing well.
As far as PvP goes, I'm a bit more worried about the whole BM situation, as I've always preferred MM. Obviously, we're all given very little choice right now as BM is the best spec for this area of the game, and I just miss MM - I guess it's because I've always liked it more over the many years, so I've developed a preference for it. I've been 2300-2400 in every season in 3's, and I haven't found arenas very fun lately with the current state of overall PvP, which is just ridiculous.
Hybrids doing so much healing and warriors having the sustained pressure are some of the things that are putting me off in this season, so I've been a bit more relaxed and all.
I'm not satisfied but I don't think the sky is falling either.
We're one of the weaker DPS classes, but we're still more than good enough for progression.
Also: I just don't feel like with all the things we have to do to maximize our dps, is rewarding as it should be. I'm not asking to go back to the T11/T12 days where we topped almost every fight as MM (although that would be nice) just a little love for the effort we put in.
Well from this poll we can clearly see that blizz will never see this poll xD
I guess it is obvious a lot of hunters ain't happy with their class.
Pure facts can never be wrong, we are terrible. http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_...14/30/default/
The above show heroic 25man passes the past month. Our two "viable" specs are the worst in the game, MM is obviously not even measured.
I like the Survival playstyle, but sadly the dps is not competitive at all. From my view the issue comes mainly from Heroism, we gain SO little during that phase in a fight. I see mages skyrock due to them gaining tons from the faster cast time.
All I get as survival is a bit faster autoshot and a couple of cobrashots because I'm too busy pressing the 20 instant attacks that light up all the time to actually benefit much.
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No MM hunters have ever killed him on 25man HC - So whoever spec that next week and shoot a single arrow will get a rank1 and claim they are best MM hunter in the world.
Survival and MM Hunters in PvE atm reminds me so much of this picture:
I swapped from my mage of 6 years to play my hunter for MoP (which was played almost as much as my mage anyway outside of raiding). While I'm loving the class, I am finding it a bit hard to see my mage sitting there idle knowing I could pull way better numbers for my guild if I ran him. Having said that, I am playing my Hunter because I enjoy the class rather than saying " Oh, mages are OP and smashing the charts" and playing the flavour of the expansion. If we can just get a bit of a boost from Blizz I would be happier, but I sit in the top 3 for my guild anyway so its not as bad as it sometimes seems.
We aren't overpowered, we aren't underpowered. We perform very well on the fights that cater to our strengths, just like other classes. The reason we are doing so poorly this tier is because many of the fights have a 2 target cleave mechanic, which is by far our weakest point. Single Target BM is competitive, AoE we are one of the strongest, behind DK's/Tank Monks.
The issue is not where hunters are, it's where other classes are. The current top end classes just need to be toned down right now. Mages, Warriors, Warlocks are all far and above where other classes are.
Right now the fix Hunters need, if any, is to make Survival a multidot spec. Remove the CD on Black Arrow, and allow us to keep dots up on multiple targets. Our problems are solved if that were to happen.