Top 3 Biggest game disappointments

[Dabrix32]

I'll give you 100 dollars IF you would play Diablo 3 NOW and you would come back within 1 week and say it stinks.

But don't forget to enable MP play of course ... and first read about the new end game mechanics... since I hope you still have your Monk or DH...

But of course you won't accept the bet, since you would need to change the content of your thread ))

First of all no where did I ever state I didnt like the game. In fact I played 6-8 hours every day until GW2 came out, which is a lot longer than most people gave the game. Still doesnt change my position on the game though. As many have stated in regards to the recent changes made to games like D3 and SW:ToR that have made them better: A game only has ONE chance to make an impression on most people. Thats probably why games give you that first month for free.

If an overwhelming number of people that bought your game still arent logging in 2 months later thats a failure. You failed to keep the players intersted in the game which as a game designer is your main goal. In both games the Developers FAILED to fix major bugs in a timely manner that should have been fixed in Beta in the first place. In D3 Blizzard has still FAILED to deal with the bot problem. Maybe I should have outlined my definition of a failure. Obviously record sales doesnt make anything a failure. But when most people stop playing shortly after the game launches that does.

[Deleted]

I'll give you 100 dollars IF you would play Diablo 3 NOW and you would come back within 1 week and say it stinks.

But don't forget to enable MP play of course ... and first read about the new end game mechanics... since I hope you still have your Monk or DH...

But of course you won't accept the bet, since you would need to change the content of your thread ))

rly? can i send you my paypal? lol

yesterday i tried diablo and maaan it still sux^^ theres some changes to lvl from mobs or this paragon thing but seriously? i was in this desert and thought k i play this to the end but got bored after 30 min again

sry its just a bot game nothing more^^

[Dabrix32]

If people stopped playing D3 a minute after they bought it, it wouldn't be a failure. They bought it.

Blizzard had already cashed in by that point. D3 servers could become a ghost town, but it wouldn't matter, because Blizzard cashed out months ago.

I disagree. A game is supposed to keep people interested and keep them playing. Many people have said in other threads in the D3 forums that they farmed D2 for years yet most people gave up on D3 after 2 months. Obviously something was very wrong if people stayed hooked on D2 for so long yet gave up on D3 so fast. I wouldnt consider that a success at all.

[Deleted]

I think most people aren't hating on TOR for the sake of hating. It is objectively an economic failure.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...or-surrenders/

Theres a difference with "failure" and "hating" i was speaking more generally then just this thread, i myself put SWTOR in my top 3 as a failure (as a current returning player and a subscriber since launch)

If people stopped playing D3 a minute after they bought it, it wouldn't be a failure. They bought it.

Blizzard had already cashed in by that point. D3 servers could become a ghost town, but it wouldn't matter, because Blizzard cashed out months ago.

thats not what Blizzard counted on tho, thats not meeting expectations, why do you think they built the whole game around the RMAH, why did they go through all the legals in Korea to get it in, because they wanted a WoW esq revenue stream, of constant money each month, D3 had over 10 years of development time to pay for, tons of legal costs due to the RMAH, and massive marketing spend to claw back they weren't just counting on box sales,(why do you think they gave away D3 in the annual pass? yes to help with wow sub numbers and also it widened their audience for people to get hooked on the RMAH) Activision since the merger has been obsessed with getting another WoW, they got the original in the merger now theyre obsessed with finding another like that where you can use that constant regular money to fund your business,Theyre tried it with Call of Duty and the COD:Elite annual subscription thing they had to stop that when noone wanted it, and they tried it with the RMAH but with the massive exodus of players that wont measure to expected revenue.

Its a failure to me because it didnt do the business they expected and its a failure because i didnt enjoy the game after a seocnd playthrough.

[Deleted]

Most of posts in this thread are ridiculous. People just posting high profile games which failed to be a new Jesus of video games. You may not like the ending of ME3 (I didnt liked it as well) but ME3 was far from a failure. SWToR failed big time to be a "WoW killer" but it is still a fairly commonly played game in the MMO crowd. Diablo 3 was a letdown for many but calling it a biggest fail game ever is just pure hating.

I could not agree more, hate seems to be the new thing to do though

[Kalyyn]

99% of the games named in this thread turned a sizable profit.

Clearly you guys don't understand what failure is.

[Vankrys]

I like when people use their gamers culture and quote games earlier than 2010.

All i see is swtor, mop, cata, diablo gw2. Gaming wasn't invented in 2012. and gaming is not just MMO or online game. This to me just show a lack of experience in the field of gaming to simply answer OP's question.

As far as disppointment for me, daikatana was a great one back in the day. After so many years of development how to not be disappointed by duke nukem forever, it was a godly franchise that got murderered.

Must also cite dragon ages 2 and KOTOR 2, unfinished game, should have had more time to get done.

[dukem]

1. diablo3
huge fan of 1 and 2 and 3 is nowhere near the first two -due to different development team, the name does not make the game, the people do. so basically it not any better than titan quest or any other diablo2 clone.

2. swtor

still playing and enjoying it, but it's failing can't be ignored. people were just talk. going down that fast with a budget and ip like that requires a new and never seen before level of stupidity. never the less I still think the suits are to blame for superimposing their flawed and uneducated ideas (metadeath) I think we have to be glad that vampires did not make it into the game although they are so popular at the moment, maybe we would have vampires if it wasn't for lukas^^

3. fallou3
huge fan of 1 and 2 and 3 is nowhere near the first two -due to different development team, the name does not make the game, the people do. (yes I actually cut and paste it) beth introduced 3rd person 3d action into the game, story flaws etc etc. new vegas while still having the flaws of the general design is much better storywise.

[Immitis]

1: the cdi zeldas these shouldnt even need explaining if you dont know what they are just google them


2: ET is def one and is often held as the main reason atari went under how true that is im not sure but from seeing gameplay videos of the game i can tell you it was god awful.

3: world of warcraft the burning crusade, for a game i was so excited about for the return of kael'thas illidan and various other characters it was soon turned into garbage with no explanations for anything and ruined characters and retconed history. there was a couple good things that came out of bc and that was the sporregar, the nether drakes, flying mounts, dailies and the introduction. as much as i hated bc the moment of first coming through the dark portal was one of my greatest moments in wow and was only topped for introduction in mists with the alliance intro. both cataclysm and wraths into just felt like "get on this boat go here" or "hop in this portal byez". but overall bc was a horrible expansion and i hated it.

[savvasp]

Have you read the forums lately? The people playing would diagree with you.

I'm sure the forums are a great indicator of the game. Have you ever checked the WoW forums ? Everyone crying =/= bad game

[Vankrys]

Whoever called Mass Effect 3 a failure i will punch you in the face!

for me it has to be Deus EX: Human Revolution, absolute garbage of a game, worst $60 ever spent, no joke.

how can anyone call Deus Ex: Human Revolution an, and i quote "absolute garbage of a game, worst $60 ever spent"

I understand that you may not like 3rd personne action RPG shooting/stealth game but, in its genre, it is magnificiently done, a masterpiece.
I did love it, and most of professional and public critic of video games too.

I think you were expecting something else from the game, a Call of Duty gameplay maybe, or panda perhaps i don't know, in any case, you did not understand the game.

I suppose you are not a fan of blade runner universe either.

[Ealyssa]

99% of the games named in this thread turned a sizable profit.

Clearly you guys don't understand what failure is.

99% of the opinions here are from a gamer perspective.

Clearly you don't understand what enjoyment means...

[Deleted]

XIII - the game was pretty intense at points but the ending and the fact they never made a sequel is beyond me did anyone play the remake if perfect dark... yeah my thoughts exactly. and omg half the crap on them computers you can buy from the market which cost 10 dollars for a console and have 10000 games. they seem to flop BIG!

[Deleted]

Final Fantasy 11 of course.

Though I guess that is not quite factious. Final Fantasy 11 was (is) an MMORPG, and quite a popular one at it, but was never labelled as a "wow killer", except by sensationalist forum posters like myself.

I don't see how a game which came out almost 2 years before the release of WoW could be labelled as a "WoW killer" lol
MMOs were much different back in FFXI times.
While it's true the game utterly failed in growing up enough to live up to the change of times (mainly because of japanese approach and because they didn't want to drop down the PS2 support), it's definitely not a failure.
It's also the most profitable game, to time, that SE ever released.

You may have not liked it, it definitely wasn't a game for everyone, and it was full of issues and especially in 2012 it shows all of its problems (and they are many), but while not as successful as WoW it's been a really nice game. Many of the people who experienced FFXI back when it was "new" say that they have never have been able to experience those "feelings" in any other game.
Let's just say it was one of those games which were incredibly slow and frustrating, and it took an insane amount of work and dedication to get even the minimal sense of "reward", but when you managed to, that feeling of reward stayed with you for a long, long time. It was really big, really satisfying and really long-lasting.
It's just that it took incredible amolunt of patience to achieve them.

Yes. All which were server-side controlled, and suffering from a monumental input lag due to every server being placed in uzbekistan or something. Wanted to equip a sword? Click escape, wait 4 seconds for the menu to open up, and take it from there. Several sub-menus later, each with that 4 second input lag, and you got to the right spot.

Yes, one of the several issues of the original vanilla FFXIV was that, in the foolish and naive attempt to limit the influence of botting and hacking, they put like 90% of the stuff server-side instead of client side.
Result? like 5 seconds lag to do ANYTHING. Equip an item, open a menu, browse a shop. Not to count the ugly netcode full of useless checks that was slowing it down and creating server and client crashes whenever more than X people were close to each other.
What's even more ironic is that they failed at containing the use of Bots or Hacks lol, so yeah...
It was one of the many issues of the game and server clients of FFXIV, greatly reducing the enjoyability of the game.
Of course there were countless other problems, but also quite a few interesting and fresh ideas.

From this point of view it's kinda sad that the original FFXIV died to become "FFXIV: A Realm Reborn" which will undoubtely be a much better game, but also something much less original and unique as the wanted FFXIV wanted to be.
We are already so full of bad and good WoW clones that honestly I would have liked an "original" game that tries to be different and aimes at a solid niche of users, rather than the Nth game that aims at a large mass of players and tries to steal users from WoW...
But we'll see what happens in 2013 when "A Realm Reborn" launches, I guess.

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ah, i never played the game, i just remember hearing about its terrible menu system you needed to use while playing. how did they ever think that was a good idea?

It's simple: they programmed a game for PC thinking they were doing a Console game.
Thinking they could do what they did with FFXI again in 2012, that is having the same user interface for both console and PC users, while it's pretty clear that those different platforms need different UIs.
(and tbh, that interface would have sucked even for console, altough the situation would have been much more bearable without the Client/Server stuff I talked about in my earlier post)

[Deleted]

how can anyone call Deus Ex: Human Revolution an, and i quote "absolute garbage of a game, worst $60 ever spent"

I understand that you may not like 3rd personne action RPG shooting/stealth game but, in its genre, it is magnificiently done, a masterpiece.
I did love it, and most of professional and public critic of video games too.

I think you were expecting something else from the game, a Call of Duty gameplay maybe, or panda perhaps i don't know, in any case, you did not understand the game.

I suppose you are not a fan of blade runner universe either.

While I wouldn't call it a failure of Invisible War proportions, it's still not nearly as good as the first. It's good as far as recent AAA titles go but far from a masterpiece.

99% of the games named in this thread turned a sizable profit.

Clearly you guys don't understand what failure is.

OP title says failure.
OP post heavily implies personal disappointment.

I'm gonna go ahead and say I trust the post more than the title.

[Sorshen]

In the 'MMO' area I'll go with SW:TOR, Warhammer Online, Aion.
For 'single player' games I'm thinking Heroes 4, COD/Black Ops/all of em' <<modern shooters>>, ANY LotR game, Duke Nukem Forever ... and I can go on...

[Wilian]

99% of the games named in this thread turned a sizable profit.

Clearly you guys don't understand what failure is.

Again, just because something is financial success does not mean it wouldn't fail on other areas. The OP didn't demand financial failures.

[Faldric]

One I personally experienced was Gothic 3. I guess its not that well known, since its from Germany but the Gothic Series was pretty big here and it always stood for rock solid RPGs. Then came Gothic 3. It was a bugfest and such a financial desaster that the publisher jowood went broke.

[Deleted]

Wow. A lotta people hating on Sw:ToR! D= For the most part, I thought the levelling experience of ToR (specifically the 'class quests') is one of the best things to happen to MMOs in a long time. I heard the end-game was crap, but if you just cap a character then play an alt for the story, seems pretty good.

I think Silent Hill: Book Of Memories looks to be a terrible, terrible direction to take the game in. A multi-player dungeon crawler...? What are they thinking?! Silent Hill is a franchise that should never have a multi-player feature regardless of medium. The player's sense isolation is a huge factor in creating the iconic atmosphere of the games (the first few anyway). Then, there's the actual choice of making it a dungeon-crawler, featuring that ever prevalent cash cow, good ol' Mr. Pyramid Head, who has become a cheap mascot for the series after being an iconic inner demon for a torn protagonist. Bad, Konami! BAD!

Not sure what else really, I don't think there's many games that have invoked rage through disappointment in me. The state of FPS's like COD maybe. I thought the first Modern Warfare was good! A breath of fresh air after several gaming generations of WW2 scenarios. Then, they made the second instalment, which felt a little rushed with not much in the way of innovative changes. And then, there was the third MW. Absolute garbage. No graphics improvement, terrible maps deliberately catered to those bloody annoying long-sprint duration knife-happy players that spend more time stabbing than shooting, and a total abandonment of campaign investment. *Patoo-eey!*

ODST was pretty shit too, I guess. Ooh! And Mass Effect 3's ending (pre-much needed damage control patch). Still, a sloppy and not-so-great ending to an otherwise amazing franchise, including 90% of ME3.

[iggie]

Wow. A lotta people hating on Sw:ToR! D= For the most part, I thought the levelling experience of ToR (specifically the 'class quests') is one of the best things to happen to MMOs in a long time. I heard the end-game was crap, but if you just cap a character then play an alt for the story, seems pretty good.

And most players agree, 1-50 was amazing. Absolutely mind blowingly fun. The end game was just so horrid and so horrible with crew skills being unbalanced and worthless, a horrible GTN UI, and the list goes on.

I hope they can revive the game on the next expansion. Or make SWTOR2 and not suck. One or the other...