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  1. #101
    I'll spit on his corpse after watching him die screaming.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post

    He shouldn't get to die a redeemed hero like Grom. Grom was corrupted by demons blood and had an excuse for being how he was. Garrosh does not, and such a character should just die, screaming in his absolute defeat.
    Agreed. Garrosh made these decisions with no unnatural influence (that we know and I hope that broken record isn't the case)

    Not all jerks are heroes in the end. It's certainly not true in real life and I'm tired of seeing it in the media.

    This kinda goes for Varian too. He is a lot of overreacted hate and it's annoying when they try to humanize him. Varian is not as crazy evil as Garrosh though, he's just a regular jerk with too much power.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    such characters don't deserve second changes, his old excuses for what he does died when he started to arrange assassinations of the hordes own and subjugating children into his bloodshed.
    Seriously, who is telling you he isn't possessed by the Sha, influenced/possessed by a demon, corrupted by the Old Gods, you name it?

    I'm really betting on Sha here, because it makes the story of MoP go full circle. Blizzard likes wrapping things up.
    You know how the Aspects lost their power with the defeat of Deathwing? It didn't make sense, but they probably did it for closure. To wrap up the Aspects storyline.

    The same will (probably) be done with the Sha. The story needs to finish at the end of MoP. And Garrosh has really changed. You starting to see the connection yet?

    Everything about MoP needs to come together at the end for a grand finale and then it needs to be wrapped up so we can move on to the next expansion with mostly fresh story.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Hardstyler01 View Post
    Seriously, who is telling you he isn't possessed by the Sha, influenced/possessed by a demon, corrupted by the Old Gods, you name it?

    I'm really betting on Sha here, because it makes the story of MoP go full circle. Blizzard likes wrapping things up.
    You know how the Aspects lost their power with the defeat of Deathwing? It didn't make sense, but they probably did it for closure. To wrap up the Aspects storyline.

    The same will (probably) be done with the Sha. The story needs to finish at the end of MoP. And Garrosh has really changed. You starting to see the connection yet?

    Everything about MoP needs to come together at the end for a grand finale and then it needs to be wrapped up so we can move on to the next expansion with mostly fresh story.
    Blizzard really needs to actually get some writers if that is the case AGAIN

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    Blizzard really needs to actually get some writers if that is the case AGAIN
    I think this is a case of business strategy conflicting with writers.

    Edit:
    Didn't we see the same in Starcraft II and Diablo 3 either? They leave options for story in expansions, but they generally like to wrap up the story started at the beginning of each game. In Starcraft II that was the Jim Raynor/Kerrigan story. In Diablo 3 it was defeating all Evil and the triumph of mortals.

    I doubt all Blizzard games have the same writers. So I think it's a business strategy.
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  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Argroth View Post
    Blizzard really needs to actually get some writers if that is the case AGAIN
    WoW already has a writer, Christie Golden:/ But I agree, writing has gone lousy. Considering the most obvious ending, Garrosh is corrupted by the Sha he tried to bind in order to advance in his war, with Vol'Jin and maybe Anduin being main lore characters against him. So, it's Groms case again (corrupted to get more power with knowledge about downsides, and somehow redeems himself), with "The betrayed one" (Vol'jin of course, I mean the first one who was appointed as an advisor for the warchief in order to make sure he won't do much bad things, and his first decision was to threaten his life and run away like a pussy) and "the good boy" (Anduin, the poster child who lacks character, said to be a savior or some cluche shit like that in a book). There again, we've got our basic "pure knight and his good friend fight a big monster".

    Really, something changed much since WIII, where the story was full of twists and characters weren't just twodimensional cardboard cutouts.

    And btw, I miss Cata Garrosh... What the heck happened to him between Cata and MoP is a mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaburoDaimando View Post
    Supposed you were asked to do the final moments of Garrosh Hellscream after the final fight in Siege of Orgrimmar. How will you handle it?

    My idea is that Varian and Thrall kneel beside the dying Garrosh as the latter realizes how wrong he was in his war. As Varian and Thrall talk with Garrosh, Varian decides to offer some food to Garrosh to ease his soul. In the end, his act of kindness finally ends the rivalry between Varian and Garrosh. Before his dying breath, Garrosh tells Varian that "The Burning Legion will be the ultimate test as leader of your people. Show them that this planet is not to be messed up. LOK'TAR OGAR, Varian Wrynn." before passing away. Varian replies with a silent "Lok'tar...ogar." before allowing Thrall to mourn the passing of Garrosh in silence.
    I truly hope the entire opposite of this happens. Garrosh is such a dick. He has been since he was focused in Wrath. Prior to that, he was a whiny bastard. Arthas had some reason to have at least a little redemption towards the end (not entirely, but enough to make him have more substance than a Saturday morning cartoon villain). Garrosh doesn't. He get's angry about everything.

    He needs to die and stay dead. He insults the Horde who aren't Orcs, and rushes to pointless wars with the Alliance regardless of any peacekeeping. The sooner he's gone, the better.
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    His final moments will be him stunning us while a portal comes behind him with the Legion guards escorting him through it. They're back people and get ready for some demon slaying.

  10. #110
    I will only accept Gamon as new warchief.

    or vol'jin.

  11. #111
    I guess we just have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightguard View Post
    But..we kinda had that with Arthas..why do we need a second form of it?
    not really

    Yes there was Arthas, but Arthas was part of the entity known as the Lich King
    And the Lich King was anything but "a mere mortal"

    But my point was, least to me, its easier to relate and understand and face against "normal" mortals, rather than crazy weird powerful entites such as the Lich King, Deathwing, or Old Gods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    he wants to end all the lives of every alliance that walks. He isn't even defending territory anymore, he simply wants genocide. .
    killing the enemies of your people....such shocking behaviour!!!

    If you ask me, conquering territory is not "douchebag" behaviour, its pretty dam normal thing to do.
    Civilizations have always and will always continue to do so.
    The Night Elves built their kingdoms through conquest
    The Panderan built their empire by waging war and destruction against the Mogu
    Durotar was founded on the bones of quilbor and Centuar and whatever critters we kicked out
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    His face expression says it all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nightguard View Post
    God damnit a fun and normal discussion gone to hell now...but anyway.
    If you really think that you have no pity for Arthas then..or people like the vancleef or he'll a few others that do disastrous outs things for the sake of making things far or better for those around them.
    your definition of a 'fun and normal' post seems kind of vague.

    Its easy with them because despite there background and how they ended up as there were, these characters were not perceived by anyone as anything but bad guys in the end. Garrosh is in the same school as such characters, but people still pretend he has some good in him, which of course is ridiculous.

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    His face expression says it all.
    Oh My God I love you for posting this ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    your definition of a 'fun and normal' post seems kind of vague.

    Its easy with them because despite there background and how they ended up as there were, these characters were not perceived by anyone as anything but bad guys in the end. Garrosh is in the same school as such characters, but people still pretend he has some good in him, which of course is ridiculous.

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    Oh My God I love you for posting this ^^
    Now Trassk, as much as I appriciate your hate for Garrosh, don't you think that quick death, such as choping his head off would justify for what he's done?

    I should think not. He needs to be punished severely and granting him a quick death or death in heat of battle would be to his liking and an easy way out for him.
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    I shall dance on his corpse for what he did to Kinndy <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadow View Post
    Now Trassk, as much as I appriciate your hate for Garrosh, don't you think that quick death, such as choping his head off would justify for what he's done?

    I should think not. He needs to be punished severely and granting him a quick death or death in heat of battle would be to his liking and an easy way out for him.
    what if the suffering came before the head choppy? ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    what if the suffering came before the head choppy? ^^
    huh......and here I thought I always read about you complaining about "dishonorable" combat and what not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    what if the suffering came before the head choppy? ^^
    Nah, death is too go for him. Stick him in a pot of magma inside Ragefire Chasm until the end of time or something along these lines seems to be a better solution. =)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    huh......and here I thought I always read about you complaining about "dishonorable" combat and what not
    I think he ment something along the line of pillory or stockade for people to humilate him, before execution if he must die for his crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jshadow View Post
    Nah, death is too go for him. Stick him in a pot of magma inside Ragefire Chasm until the end of time or something along these lines seems to be a better solution. =)

    Or maybe something along the line of pillory or stockade for people to humilate him, before execution if he must die for his crimes.
    Well, as we know with many orcs, dying a dishonorable death is the most terrible thing any of them can have. So, what if for giggles, before his death, the spirit of grom appears before Garrosh and says something along the lines of 'Garrosh, I am disappoint', causing Garrosh to cry like a baby before Varian or jaina chops his head off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    huh......and here I thought I always read about you complaining about "dishonorable" combat and what not
    He doesn't deserve it. An honorable death is deserved for someone with honor.
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