"we have the right"... lol, thanks for the chuckle.
You have a right to be able to sign on to the servers, that right you bought with the game purchase. You can use the game servers with the sub fee you pay for the playtime. You don't own your account. Read the TOS. It's Blizzards property. They can let you play, they can take it away, at their convenience.
You don't even have a right to a 24/7 usage, because downtimes are part of the process.
As for loot... You are completely wrong.
There can be zero gear loot distribution (highly unlikely, yet theoretically possible) and there can be 25 gear winners (also highly unlikely). Plus all the additional bonus rolls players have used. There will always be 25 loot winners, because the least you walk away with is a bag of gold.
I agree with you guys, I don't care what other people get. I check my bags after the boss dies and that's all I need to see.
You know who wants to see what others win?
Folks who wish they still had some limited say in exactly who gets loot. Sorry, but there are 2 other raiding modes for that sort of thing.
"Look around you. We're all liars here, and every one of us is better than you" - PB
"I see we have visitors. Two arms!" - Mar'tak
Boy some ppl got pretty touchy, since they apparently never won a single piece.
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Dunno..where do you see your ingame rights? I mean...having raided since Classic, it wasn't great to go 5 weeks without seeing my item drop and knowing that others have won. It was cool for the guild that we didn't shard things, but on a personal level it is all the same, maybe worse if you see somebody win s.th. again and again...and you are left out.
That said..isn't there a /loot command?
"It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."
— Alan Moore
In which way affects you to know which loot gets the others?
And what would you gain from seeing what OTHERS recieved?
It would do nothing except start rage-chats about who recieved what.
"I needed that sword!" "Lol and I don't even need it, sux2bu" RAGE RAGE RAGE
WoD was destroyed thanks to MoP feedback where everything outside of raids should be optional.
So keep that in mind as you once again complain about things being "mandatory for raiding".
Just within the group of 6 other guildies I went with into Heart of Fear (both halves) last week, we managed to walk out with the following loot:
Myself: 4 pieces of equipment
1st guildie: 2 pieces of equipment
2nd guildie: 2 pieces of equipment
3rd guildie: 1 piece of equipment
4th guildie: 2 pieces of equipment
5th guildie: 1 piece of equipment
6th guildie: 1 piece of equipment
Now, that doesn't even count Sigils of Wisdom from Heart of Fear. We one-shot every boss, and walked out with a total of 13 pieces of gear amongst us. By your logic of "2 drops per boss" we got more loot than the 6 bosses should allow for, and stole everything from the raid, which anyone else will agree to: It's not true.
The rough drop chance I recall reading is a 15% chance to win an item from an LFR boss kill or any difficulty Elder Coin roll. Best of odds, not really. To this day, I have won a single coin item from Sha of Anger, killing him weekly. Got friends in-guild that got set pants 2 weeks in a row from him (thankfully, they were Resto one week, and Balance the next, so not a major loss).
RNG is RNG. Half of raid groups don't care to bother sharing what they got. It's not your business OP. It's your business to show up, not be a dick to others, do your part for the raid, claim your loot, and be on your way. I'm not happy that the first time my friend killed both Elegon and now Sha of Fear, he has gotten the 2H Weapon, while it's took me 4 Elegon kills (with 4 coin rolls too), to get the sword, but that's the nature of the beast. I got a friend in a progression guild who STILL only has a 463 blue weapon, and yet they are doing Heroic modes. Why? RNG (Yes, both Normal and LFR have hated on him since day one).
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Games are not necessarily "easier" today. You are just a better player.
It takes more now to impress many gamers than it did 2-5 years ago, because so much has already been seen and done.
Many players expect to be wow'd with every release of a beloved franchise.
These are generally NOT the fault of the developers, but the fault of many players over-hyping and/or setting expectations too high.
No one needs to hear that, and people appear to be trying to do the best they can as much as they did when we squabbled like Hozen over loot.
I think it would be interesting to see what other people won, too. You should also be able to trade, since often you get a piece that you already have.
Like this would show in chat log:
Player 1 won a [Homemade Cherry Pie]
Player 8 won a [Corrupted Ashbringer] using a Coin
Player 17 won a [Chuck Norris' Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight of Roundhouse Kicking]
Player 21 won a [Foror's Compedium of Dragonslaying]
Personally, I would like to see who wins loot. That way, I can congratulate them.
EDIT - I am glad you can not trade though. That is where all the drama starts....
It's not that "we have the right"... but we should have a way to verify the system works as intended and the loot gets theur way o the raid.
Nowadays in LFR how can i know if the loot was given correctly or if every raider got 28golds and blizzard system failed or they decided to screw us up?
There is no way today to know it. Dragon soul LFR loot was better than MoP in my opinion.
There is a very easy solution for this and I currently do it. Whenever you win an item link it either in raid or /1 (if sha) and let people know that gear is dropping. If we as a community do this very simple thing then we will know what bosses are dropping and we can let blizzard work on new content.
...Made it through 9 years of wow...
I don't care what drops and what other people get, what is this a conspiracy?
I have a suggestion, stop caring about little things. People just whine about every little thing I swear.