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    Question Demo Lock Pets + Bloodlust/Heroism

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    Quick question about demo locks and their pets with relation to bloodlust. Should i be getting my pets and imps out before lust goes out or do they scale with my haste?

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    Yeah, I am sure I read on Icy Veins that they update dynamically with haste and crit.

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    You want to get imps out, after getting bloodlust, if you do not plan to use them only with DS. Their cooldown is reduced by haste and bloodlust reduces the cooldown a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelic View Post
    Yeah, I am sure I read on Icy Veins that they update dynamically with haste and crit.
    But not with mastery right? So still popping dark soul before doomguard?

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    DG doesnt scale with haste. so popping him with hero is pointless

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosuko View Post
    But not with mastery right? So still popping dark soul before doomguard?
    Yes, they scale with Mastery, and Resilience. Myths that need dispelling.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

    All pets get:
    -- Crit: 100% of your Crit (Melee/Ranged/Spell individually)
    -- Hit: 50% of your Hit and 50% of your Exp
    -- Exp: 50% of your Hit and 50% of your Exp
    -- Resil: 100% of your Resil
    -- PvP Power: 100% of your PvP Power
    -- Haste: 100% of your Haste (Melee/Ranged/Spell/Regen individually)
    -- Dodge: 100% of your Dodge
    -- Parry: 100% of your Parry
    -- Armor: Various %s of your Armor, based on pet
    -- HP: Various %s of your HP, based on pet

    Some pets get, as appropriate to the pet:
    -- SP: Some % of your SP, AP, or RAP, based on pet
    -- AP: Some % of your SP, AP, or RAP, based on pet
    -- RAP: Some % of your RAP, based on pet
    -- Mastery: Warlock and Mage pets get 100% of your Mastery
    -- Mana: Mage pets get 100% of your Mana
    -- Mana Regen: Mage pets get 100% of your Mana Regen
    Source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viggers View Post
    DG doesnt scale with haste. so popping him with hero is pointless
    Yes, it does. Some pets take a little longer to 'notice' than others, but they all do even if for Wild Imps it makes no difference since they have a fixed number of casts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Yes, it does. Some pets take a little longer to 'notice' than others, but they all do even if for Wild Imps it makes no difference since they have a fixed number of casts.
    Recent testing suggests that the doom guard is currently casting 17 doom bolts independent of haste as it appears to get energy regen limited like our imp pet and it might not have energy regen that scales with haste.

    Edit: I'll do some quick testing in a minute here, 10 minute CD ftl
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDShaidar View Post
    Recent testing suggests that the doom guard is currently casting 17 doom bolts independent of haste as it appears to get energy regen limited like our imp pet and it might not have energy regen that scales with haste.

    Edit: I'll do some quick testing in a minute here, 10 minute CD ftl
    Quicker to check logs, but if that's the case then it's always going to be better used during the execute contrary to the advice in the sticky.

    Edit: A quick perusal of my own logs show 17 casts irrespective of when I summoned him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post

    Edit: A quick perusal of my own logs show 17 casts irrespective of when I summoned him.
    same here; my DG also doesn't cast more than 17 bolts while active :/

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    okay, at naked haste levels the DG has a 3 second cast, isn't energy capped and casts 15 Doombolts over it's duration, this is as opposed to the 19 or 20 we'd expect if it were truly chain casting them. Unfortunately spamming a /cast Doom Bolt macro didn't help eliminate the pauses between casts that result in these numbers like it used to fix our imp.

    With haste the number of casts appears to cap at 17 which i get in my normal gear @ 12% haste. I see no more gained when cast during lust nor afflictions DS.

    Can any one find logs of a single DG casting more than 17 doom bolts?

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-22 at 04:06 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Quicker to check logs, but if that's the case then it's always going to be better used during the execute contrary to the advice in the sticky.

    Edit: A quick perusal of my own logs show 17 casts irrespective of when I summoned him.
    Yeah I just wanted to see if it was an energy regen issue or some other delay in casting problem and the logs won't tell me that. It doesn't appear to be an energy issue, it just seems to take longer to decide to start casting again the faster it's cast speed. So either that needs to be fixed or it's duration should scale with haste I guess. Until then haste above gear levels doesn't provide any dps increase via the DG.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-22 at 04:25 PM ----------

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