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Ask Mr Robot says stack Haste Gemms yet isnt agi better for DPS monks ??
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Thread: [WW] Haste or or Agi gemms
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2012-11-22, 11:13 AM #1Blademaster
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[WW] Haste or or Agi gemms
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2012-11-22, 11:15 AM #2High Overlord
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Agi in red, haste/agi in yellow.
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2012-11-22, 11:44 AM #3Blademaster
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thats what i do but i just thought it was weird why it saying stack haste yellow on yellow
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2012-11-22, 11:47 AM #4Scarab Lord
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You sure you haven't got it set to Brewmaster? Since that's what we do.
Also, check stat weights. Ask Mr. Robot is only as good as the information you put in to it.
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2012-11-22, 12:03 PM #5Blademaster
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no i have set it to wind walker 1h i just thought it was weird
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2012-11-22, 12:03 PM #6Field Marshal
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You have to look at the stat weights. Currently in standard gear Haste is worth more than 0,5 agi, (normalized agi is worth 3 and haste 1,6) and as a haste gem is 320 haste vs 160 agi for the agi-gem, a haste gem comes out on top.
Originally Posted by Boohaha
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2012-11-22, 12:10 PM #7Blademaster
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Still dont get it /facepalm sorry
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2012-11-22, 12:21 PM #8Mechagnome
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1 agi is worth more than one haste, but is it better than 2 haste? The sat weights are close enough that you should sim it.
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2012-11-22, 01:20 PM #9Field Marshal
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For the simplified version Originally Posted by Boohaha
Still dont get it /facepalm sorry
lets say 1 AGI is worth 3 DPS
on the other hand 1 haste is worth 1,7 DPS
Now lets look at the budget for gems. Perfect/blue gems either have 160 points primary stats, or 320 points secondary stats.
160x 3DPS for the AGI gem = 480 DPS
320x 1,7 DPS for the Haste gem = 544 DPS
This is not true for all combinations of gear, but is enough of a difference to be true for most combinations atm.
PS. You also have to consider socket bonuses ofc. - if matching socket bonuses with one yellow and one red gem would give you more than the difference in stats you should match sockets.Last edited by drazzil; 2012-11-22 at 01:36 PM.
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2012-11-22, 02:59 PM #10Blademaster
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oh okay i get it now
Thanks Guys !!!
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2012-11-22, 11:31 PM #11DeletedYeah I didn't find that site that great, its confusing in many ways. Found wowreforge.com more straight forward. Originally Posted by Boohaha
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2012-11-22, 11:57 PM #12I am Murloc!
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It changes based on your current levels of Haste, Crit, and Agility. One will not always be better than the other, they kind of scale with each other. You'll need to sim your gear if you want the exact stat weights in your current situation.
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2012-11-23, 11:07 AM #13Deleted
Hint: you can change AMR's stat weights to something more realistic. The values are different for everyone, as they change with every piece of gear you get. So run a simulation first to get stat values, then enter those in AMR and voila, accurate reforging/gems!
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