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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Is there any word on whether or not the guy will be compensated for his time?
    Going to guess the answer is "no" then?
    Is it a rule that you have to be rude and sarcastic in every conversation here?

  2. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Statute of limitations has passed. Nothing should be "done to the daughter".

    Nothing should happen to the DA. He did not break a law. He did his job.

    Ignoring third question because its irrelevant and a pretty clear attempt at a red herring.

    And laws should be adjusted to prevent convictions on so little evidence.

    I eagerly await your follow up post complaining about how much I love rapists or some such bullshit.
    No no, I'll keep to my word, I'll thank you for your answers. You dont need more laws, or 'adjustments'; you need to enforce them instead of ignoring them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Going to guess the answer is "no" then?
    Probably too soon to tell what's going on. He has a strong case though and there's no reason to suspect he won't be successful
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    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Haarvald View Post
    No no, I'll keep to my word, I'll thank you for your answers. You dont need more laws, or 'adjustments'; you need to enforce them instead of ignoring them.
    It's not ignoring laws to not prosecute a minor for a crime she committed when the statute of limitations has expired. In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Statute of limitations has passed. Nothing should be "done to the daughter".
    This hurts the validity of rape victims however you look at it. If women don't come forward and speak up fearing the accused is found not guilty even though he is, the system breaks down. If women can lie about it and not be held accountable the system breaks down. The statute of limitations has nothing to do with the moral issue, which is the real dilemma. The man should be compensated to the tune of 9+ million. His record should be cleared completely and the judicial system that allowed this should be reviewed. I'd like to see the girl punished but nothing 'fair' IMO can be done. Knowing the girl lied, allowed someone to be imprisoned for said lie and waited 9 years to do the right thing i can't see how you are defending the girl and seemingly not the father. The father is the innocent one in this from what we know. You may not see a way to properly punish her and in that case i agree. But how you can see her as innocent is baffling. Whether she knew it at the time or not she has done a disservice to all women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Going to guess the answer is "no" then?
    It's looking like he's going to have to sue the state for compensation.

    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Not only will he likely not receive a huge restitution, but he will almost definitely receive no restitution or state assistance whatsoever, as Washington is one of 23 states that do not provide financial assistance or other help for the wrongly accused. Meanwhile, the federal government awards $50,000 per year in prison to people who are exonerated after wrongly serving time in federal penitentiaries, according to ABC News.
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    Someone said it on the first page...lying about being raped, should be punished exactly same as raping...imho
    Mindless...

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    If I had $5 for every chick I knew that had a fake rape story I'd have a brand new computer right now. They need to do thorough examinations and an actual investigation, not just listen to some woman's tearful story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesolovac View Post
    Someone said it on the first page...lying about being raped, should be punished exactly same as raping...imho
    Pretty much.

  9. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    To the daughter: nothing. For a number of reasons; from her age, to the statute of limitations, to the impact it could have on other women coming forward with the truth.
    Wouldn't it be easier to discourage the lying in the first place than to take someone's liberty, then have to use taxpayer money to compensate them for the injustice done to them later? Just a thought.

    And it seems the man had the misfortune of living in Washington State as well, might want to look up what kind of compensation they offer for in cases like this.
    Last edited by Haarvald; 2012-11-24 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haarvald View Post
    Wouldn't it be easier to discourage the lying in the first place than to take someone's liberty, then have to use taxpayer money to compensate them for the injustice done to them later? Just a thought.
    So setting up a system where if a woman accuses a man of rape, and the man is declared innocent, the woman is punished for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    A man went to jail for 9 years for no reason and you don't think that warrants punishment? You've got to just be fucking with me this time, Wells.
    Just imagine what he went through in prison. Wouldn't take long for other inmates to find out he's in there for rape. btw op, he went to prison, not jail. two completely different animals.

  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    So setting up a system where if a woman accuses a man of rape, and the man is declared innocent, the woman is punished for it?
    Fuck that sounds like a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    Fuck that sounds like a good idea.
    So if a man rapes a woman, and she attempts to charge him with rape, but there isn't enough evidence and the case falls through.. on top of being raped and losing the case, she gets charged for perjury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    So if a man rapes a woman, and she attempts to charge him with rape, but there isn't enough evidence and the case falls through.. on top of being raped and losing the case, she gets charged for perjury?
    There is a difference between losing a case and proving that someone is lying about the entire investigation. A friend of mine in the military supposedly burst into this woman's room and raped her in the middle of the night. Mind you me and him were fishing at the time and when we came back at 10am on a Saturday they took him away in cuffs and the unbelievable amount of paperwork it took to get it to go away. Nothing happened to her. "I must have passed out drunk and dreamed it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    Fuck that sounds like a good idea.
    That's a pretty terrible idea. Big difference between punishing people who very clearly lied, and imposing a penalty if you accusation doesn't yield a conviction. The latter could happen for any number of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    There is a difference between losing a case and proving that someone is lying about the entire investigation. A friend of mine in the military supposedly burst into this woman's room and raped her in the middle of the night. Mind you me and him were fishing at the time and when we came back at 10am on a Saturday they took him away in cuffs and the unbelievable amount of paperwork it took to get it to go away. Nothing happened to her. "I must have passed out drunk and dreamed it".
    Now you're subjectively adding circumstances to change the conditions of what you just said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    So if a man rapes a woman, and she attempts to charge him with rape, but there isn't enough evidence and the case falls through.. on top of being raped and losing the case, she gets charged for perjury?
    How about if there's clear evidence to suggest she's lied about the rape - then yeah, she should have the book thrown at her?

  18. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Auloria View Post
    She probably told the lie to get back at her father, and it ballooned out of control. I'm sure that she was afraid that she would have to spend her life in prison. 12 year old kids know better, but they aren't savvy by any means.
    I'm with this guy on this. 12year olds are sentient but they're not smart nor can they necessarily oversee the results of their actions.

    That's all that can be said on this matter, unfortunately what's done is done and the judicial slap on the wrist will likely happen but without any punishment - she was a minor, and in any case it's the system that failed here, imprisoning a random man cause some 12 year old says something is what's wrong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    So setting up a system where if a woman accuses a man of rape, and the man is declared innocent, the woman is punished for it?
    Now who is warping someone's words. How about if someone fucking commits perjury they pay the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reqq View Post
    How about if there's clear evidence to suggest she's lied about the rape - then yeah, she should have the book thrown at her?
    I assume that perjury works the same way in the UK as it does in the US? At least enough to be similar in function?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haarvald View Post
    Now who is warping someone's words. How about if someone fucking commits perjury they pay the penalty.
    And how do you automatically identify perjury exactly?

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