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    If an 11 y/o murders someone are they not punished? 9 years in prison is 6 years short of a "life" sentence in the US... She literally took a decade off a mans life and changed the way he will live til he dies(if he ever enjoys life the same again). Sorry rope it anyway you choose she deserves some form of punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    You know why we have a statute of limitations right?
    And yet, for many crimes we don't have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overclockedamd View Post
    If an 11 y/o murders someone are they not punished? 9 years in prison is 6 years short of a "life" sentence in the US... She literally took a decade off a mans life and changed the way he will live til he dies(if he ever enjoys life the same again). Sorry rope it anyway you choose she deserves some form of punishment.
    There is no statute of limitation for murder in the United States.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    And yet, for many crimes we don't have one.
    I thought it was only murder.... at least in the US. But I could very well be wrong there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    You know if you can't even tell him what law you're accusing her of breaking...
    I'll say this, I hope that you, and those that support your position, NEVER ever have to face 1/2 of the trauma, drama, and abuse that this man went thru. and I hope that you are never falsely incarcerated on child rape charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    And yet, for many crimes we don't have one.
    Actually pretty much the only one we don't have one for is murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    So if a man rapes a woman, and she attempts to charge him with rape, but there isn't enough evidence and the case falls through.. on top of being raped and losing the case, she gets charged for perjury?
    No. Proving perjury involves proving the party in question was willfully distorting the truth. Wanetta Gibson is guilty of perjury but remains uncharged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Actually pretty much the only one we don't have one for is murder.
    And yet a perjury charge in this case would have been really fucking easy to prove, due to the court transcripts. Statute of limitations is meant to protect the rights of the defendant from degraded evidence. Kinda hard to be degraded when it's certified transcripts kept by the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laize View Post
    No. Proving perjury involves proving the party in question was willfully distorting the truth. Wanetta Gibson is guilty of perjury but remains uncharged.
    Laize, go back through the conversation and see the situation I was responding to before you comment on it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    And yet a perjury charge in this case would have been really fucking easy to prove, due to the court transcripts. Statute of limitations is meant to protect the rights of the defendant from degraded evidence. Kinda hard to be degraded when it's certified transcripts kept by the state.
    Doesn't matter. Its a statute of limitations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    And yet a perjury charge in this case would have been far easier to prove, due to the court transcripts. Statute of limitations is meant to protect the rights of the defendant from degraded evidence. Kinda hard to be degraded when it's certified transcripts kept by the state.
    But that is for "this case." That is subjective application of the law, implementing it on a case by case basis as opposed to every situation within the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    There is no statute of limitation for murder in the United States.



    I thought it was only murder.... at least in the US. But I could very well be wrong there
    Who ever said there was a statute of of limitations? I dont believe i did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    But that is for "this case." That is subjective application of the law, implementing it on a case by case basis as opposed to every situation within the country.
    Pretty much any case for perjury would rely on court transcripts. If they aren't there, kinda hard to prosecute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Doesn't matter. Its a statute of limitations.
    Which should not be in place for perjury, like I said earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overclockedamd View Post
    Who ever said there was a statute of of limitations? I dont believe i did.
    Alright. I'll raise to you the question I gave the other gentlemen in this thread. What specific law did she break in this incident? "She made him go to jail" is not a specific law.

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    Which should not be in place for perjury, like I said earlier.
    The reasons we have these laws apply to perjury the same as any other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Pretty much any case for perjury would rely on court transcripts. If they aren't there, kinda hard to prosecute.
    Not really... what if someone said X, and 10 years later he said something similar to X but not the same while not in a court setting, and the other party wanted to bring him back and say it was perjury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Alright. I'll raise to you the question I gave the other gentlemen in this thread. What specific law did she break in this incident? "She made him go to jail" is not a specific law.
    falsifying a police report at the least. and if that was found true obstruction of justice could also be applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    The reasons we have these laws apply to perjury the same as any other.
    Which I already addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by overclockedamd View Post
    falsifying a police report at the least.
    Last I checked, a minor cannot deliver an official police report without a parent or guardian, and the statute for limitations on police report falsification is 1 year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Justice dictates that she be subject to the laws of the land, the same law that everyone else in the US is subject to. The law does not support her imprisonment over this offense.
    So a false accusation that puts a guy away for rape means all the accuser has to do is wait 3 years (statute of limitations for perjury) and then come forward to have no negative repercussions?

    That says 2 things to me.

    1) When all a case amounts to is he said, she said it should simply be thrown out.

    2) The statute of limitations on perjury should be either extended or changed to account for wrongful imprisonment.

  20. #560
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Last I checked, a minor cannot deliver an official police report without a parent or guardian, and the statute for limitations on police report falsification is 1 year.
    Where did you ever read that. That would mean a minor couldnt say they were raped w/o a parents input.

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