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    "Underpowered is fine"

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    You really think Rogues are fine? Right now I think you have a brain tumor. Let's hope both of our opinions change soon.
    Your opinion would kill me. Mine would mean your video game character is slightly underpowered. Hmmm.
    Source: Greg Street's (Ghostcrawler's) twitter

    So Ghostcrawler is aware and of the opinion that we should be underpowered.

    Also, he seems to have sorta dodged the question? Edit: Even if the question was very poorly worded.
    Last edited by ViridianWRA; 2012-11-23 at 06:58 PM.

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    I fail to see how you got that out of his response.

    I did laugh at the first part though. GC always had a sense of humor.
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    He has a sense of humor, but his ability to dodge questions, or simply provide us with no actual information, is second to none.
    Last edited by Incineration; 2012-11-27 at 09:21 PM.

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    He's not saying we're underpowered there.

    He's saying we're compeltely fine and don't need changes.. but if his opinion was wrong, then the worst problem there would be is that we would be slightly underpowered.

    ie if Person 1 is wrong (that he has a tumour) then he would die
    if HE is wrong (that rogues are fine) then rogues would be slightly underpowered.

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    I've no clue how you managed to get that conclusion out of his statement.

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    Damn rouges, always so overpowdered
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    this Gc i want to punch him in the face so badly hell i would pay money for it

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    this Gc i want to punch him in the face so badly hell i would pay money for it
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    I love GC . Though im surprised he even answers idiots like that.

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    I blame our crappy school system. Or maybe some people just fail at reading comprehension.
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    Yeah, i don't think that is what he said at all.

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    I love the fact that the guy takes a couple of hours out of his day to reply to twitter stuff, even if I don't agree with some of his decisions, but damn it must be disheartening to have everything he says being distorted by idiots with nothing better to do other than consistently coming up with this crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Validity View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    You really think Rogues are fine? Right now I think you have a brain tumor. Let's hope both of our opinions change soon.
    Your opinion would kill me. Mine would mean your video game character is slightly underpowered. Hmmm.
    Source: Greg Street's (Ghostcrawler's) twitter

    So Ghostcrawler is aware and of the opinion that we should be underpowered.

    Also, he seems to have sorta dodged the question? Edit: Even if the question was very poorly worded.

    Basically all GC said is he thinks rogues are ok in my book, he has not said there underpowered at all. That was just the posters opinion and thats all it was opinion and I really should not be surprised that someone would make a lame comment like that, why would you accuse anyone of having a tumor O.o tho I do like GC's response
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    Classes and specs rise and fall each patch, hotfix and expansion. There are still a handful of fights rogues are great at and while many don't want to hear it you just came out of a raid that all 3 specs were in the top 3rd for dmg and on some fights all 3 specs were the 1st 2nd and 3rd best specs. This might make the drop feel worse then it is but rogues are just dealing with things everybody else does from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incineration View Post
    He has a sense of humor, but his ability to dodge questions, or simply provide us with no actual information is, second to none.
    Because Twitter is the right place to post elaborate texts about class balance.

    He didn't even say that he thinks it's fine that a class, in this case rogues, being underpowered is fine.

    But keep quotemining until you, aimed at no one in particular, might be able to make a substantiated post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskobar View Post
    I love the fact that the guy takes a couple of hours out of his day to reply to twitter stuff, even if I don't agree with some of his decisions, but damn it must be disheartening to have everything he says being distorted by idiots with nothing better to do other than consistently coming up with this crap.
    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Validity View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    You really think Rogues are fine? Right now I think you have a brain tumor. Let's hope both of our opinions change soon.
    Your opinion would kill me. Mine would mean your video game character is slightly underpowered. Hmmm.
    Source: Greg Street's (Ghostcrawler's) twitter

    So Ghostcrawler is aware and of the opinion that we should be underpowered.

    Also, he seems to have sorta dodged the question? Edit: Even if the question was very poorly worded.
    GC means that if the OP's opinion is right, he'd die, but if GC's opinion is right, rogues are slightly underpowered.
    This means GC actually acknowledges rogues aren't fine.

    I think the problem here is that some people spend too much time playing WoW and not enough time learning english.
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    This just proves what blues say though, no matter what they post, people will twist it to fit their own opinions. This is also a great example of what not to do, it just makes them not listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alt-ithist View Post
    I blame our crappy school system. Or maybe some people just fail at reading comprehension.
    People read what they want to see :S It would not matter what GC said, people who hate him because he does not do what they scream at him for will always read into his comments an excuse to hate him more. Immaturity plus the knowledge there is no way they will ever be good/clever enough to match him verbally or in Blizzard. Fails hate more than people who deal with reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellash View Post
    GC means that if the OP's opinion is right, he'd die, but if GC's opinion is right, rogues are slightly underpowered.
    This means GC actually acknowledges rogues aren't fine.
    This is what I took from the tweet. I'm pretty sure he has acknowledged that rogues need a PvP buff: mobility and survivability iirc. They made some changes on 5.1 PTR, then reversed all but the Blind CD reduction. I sure hope they do something.

    We're decent in PvE. Could be better, but we're definitely not terrible. We're in a really bad place for PvP though; moreso than they acknowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterHamster View Post
    Because Twitter is the right place to post elaborate texts about class balance.
    Because the class forums are treated differently?
    What we get through these Twitter responses is no different than the "official developer responses" we're so often presented with. Yes, they differ in size and depth of debate, but the content is mostly the same; Politically correct nonsense that says a lot without actually answering anything. Elaborated responses are mostly rare, usually not elaborate to a satisfactory degree(I.e. often lack the actual answers to the actual questions), and often end openly with a non-answer.
    "We're looking into it..."
    "We're experimenting with..."
    "We might do..."

    That's been my experience at least, so far. Haven't seen one "satisfactory" dev post on rogues post-Cataclysm.

    NOTE: I'm not defending the twisting of the dev's words, but I'm most definitely not a fan of the way they present arguments and argue in their favor(When they actually do so...). Most notably, the "We disagree." Incident during the MOP beta, in which were bluntly told that our opinions are invalid/unwanted/unnecessary, and all communication between the rogue community and the devs just came to a complete halt ever since, despite several capped threads with concerned rogues.

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