Last edited by Azshira; 2013-04-27 at 08:39 AM.
I'm surprised to see only 2 bosses from AQ40 on the list. Damn that place was nightmarish. Princess was a royal pain in the ass.
Ouru should not even be on the list, he was an optional boss, no serious guild spent any time on that worm until after they killed C'Thun.
This doesn't look like it takes in to consideration the from twin emps death to the time C'thun was literally possible to beat. He needed a patch to be beaten, not because of difficulty, but because of actual impossibility.
That kinda skews some numbers here.
How about counting the downing on the PTR's as well.
That is the number one advantage current raiders have over past raiders: Pre-launch practice and knowledge.
If you chose rock as a weapon, in order to beat a pair of scissors, don't start whining when you get pwn'd by a piece of paper.
Either way, classic wasn't balanced around each boss dropping 9-10 pieces of loot per 40 players. I honestly can't remember how many items dropped per boss, but 2-3 sounds about right. In spite of the low number of item drops, we had plenty of encounters where you could easily notice the improvements better gear brought about.
You could also easily outgear Naxx encounters prior to The Burning Crusade. If you raided back in the day I simply refuse you believe you did not notice this, as it was abundantly obvious.
 I suppose it depends on your definition of 'outgearing' though.
Last edited by Akylios; 2013-04-26 at 04:27 PM.
Bugged#1 Ouro - 87 days from the Twin Emperors' death. (1 day from C'thun's death) 26th April 2006.
Bugged#2 C'thun - 86 days from the Twin Emperors' death. 25th April 2006.
#7 The Four Horsemen - 56 days from Gothik's death to D&T's kill. August 25th 2006
Required 8 tanks, in theory it was possible with 6, but I dont think anyone actually killed it with 6, a very low amount of guilds actually got passed them before TBC was released. We farmed ZG fish boss every 3 days for the spellhit trinket on our tanks, we did not use 8 warriors though, 7 with 4piece bonus and a druid.
#9 Heroic The Lich King - 42 Days from Heroic Putricide's death (first pull). March 26th 2010
I believe Paragon actually said they would never kill him at current gear levels without the buff. Blizzard never intended him to be killed before that
Yogg was the goal for world 1st, Algalon was a bonus. Also, 1 hour to attempt before he despawned.#11 Algalon the Observer - 33 days from Firefighter. June 3rd 2009.
Heavily overtuned, Blizzard promised to release hyjal and BT when raids would be ready to face the raid, they never expected top guilds to progress that fast so Vashj and KT functioned as overtuned cockblocks to make sure noone got attuned.#12 tied Kael'thas Sunstrider <Lord of the Blood Elves> - 31 days from Solarian's death. 25th May 2007
Overtuned#14 tied Magtheridon - 29 days from the first 70 raid kills. (21 days from Gruul's death) 24th February 2007
Dungeons being linear before that, I don't think (we did not atleast) anyone believed bosses to be skipable, Hydross required full frost and nature resistance on your maintanks and a mix of both on the offtanks. Sure Naxx was non linear but you couldnt skip a boss to get further in a wing, Hydross was positioned as a gatekeeper.#14 tied Leotheras the Blind - 29 days from Gruul's death. (16 days from Nihilum's Hydross kill) 4th March 2007
Overtuned, when we killed it pre 2.1 we used Onyxia's head buff, Hakkar buff, 25 soulstones and every buff we could come up with, it still took weeks of practice, the actual real kill was way later then the one made by Nihilum on the 29th of March. After 2.1 hit the boss was killed in hours by most top guilds.#17 tied Lady Vashj <Coilfang Matron> - 17 days from being unlocked. 29th March 2007
Shadow resistance potions, also, other wings got more attention because they were easier.#20 Loatheb - 14 days from Heigan's death. 17th July 2006
Resistance gear#21 tied Hydross the Unstable <Duke of Currents> - 13 days from Gruul's death. 16th February 2007
#27 tied Sapphiron - 8 days from Four Horsemen dying. 2nd September 2006
Sapphiron was easy, resistance gear blocked guilds from killing it faster.
Overtuned[COLOR=#008000]#27 tied Gruul the Dragonkiller - 8 days from Maulgar's death. 3rd February 2007
See what I did there? I understand that you don't measure difficulty, but unkillable is something different.
Didn't realize that Muru was killed in only 4 days, everyone seems to regard him as one of the tougher bosses of all time.