Paragon and Method Defeat Sha of Fear, Patch 5.1 Music, Blue Tweets, DLC Comic

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Paragon and Method Defeat Sha of Fear
DREAM Paragon and Method defeated Sha of Fear early this morning to be the first guilds to clear Terrace of Endless Spring. Congratulations to them! So far, 23 guilds have defeated Tsulong and 21 have defeated Lei Shi.

Patch 5.1 Release Date Hint
Last Tuesday someone asked Dave Kosak if the patch would be arriving two months after Mists of Pandaria was released, as is indicated by several quests. Keep in mind Mists of Pandaria was launched on September 25th, so the closest date is this week! There is also a blue post about it being very, very soon on the forums.

Patch 5.1 Music
One of the PTR builds added almost 45 minutes of music! Turn on annotations to use the menu in the video.

Blue Tweets

Classes
Why aren't bled affected by haste? It's really curious that they are the only dots that aren't affected.
Melee already get extra resources from haste because they get more swings. (Source)

The 5.1 class balance changes should be applied as a hotfix ASAP. Still a lot of this tier left!
5.1 isn't a new tier / season. We hotfix changes that are relatively safe to make. We can't hotfix everything. (Source)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Since your plan is to make heals coming from non heal specs less effective how will you compensate enhancment shaman in pvp?
It's intended to be a nerf not a balance agnostic change. (Source)

Warlock (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
What was the reasoning for removing Glyph of Supernova. the REAL reason, no the reasoning you gave for Cataclysm.
Knowing game rules is critical for PvP. Asking players to learn new rules (run from the dying lock!) in mid-season is harsh.
It's really not harsh. Harsh for morons, maybe. You have to stop patronizing your player base. We are smarter than you think.
Players can be smart and still overwhelmed with too much design churn. Being smart doesn't need to mean constantly relearning. (Source)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
You realize by nerfing Gag Order you forcing the pvp cookie cutter specs to return, I thought MoP meant more choice, not less!
Last I looked, most warriors in PvP are using Gag Order, Second Wind and Avatar. I expect we'll see more diversity now. (Source)

GC is absolutely right. Gag order is stupid and takes no skill. Juking casts?
I actually think Gag Order does take skill, but we just want warriors to be more about mobility and less about range.
If all Warriors pick the same talent, its not an indication that its too strong, its an indication other choices are too weak.
By that logic if one talent does 1M damage, we need to buff the others? Gross simplification, but DKs and paladin have less mobility but more ranged attacks.
If all Warriors pick the same talent, its not an indication that its too strong, its an indication other choices are too weak.
By that logic if one talent does 1M damage, we need to buff the others? (Source)

Rather than nerfing random various stuff, could you please look at cd-stacking and Taste for Blood instead?
TfB in PvP is very rare. However, bc it's so rare, nerfing it would have little balance impact but might stop flashy videos. (Source)

Character
Are there plans to do more theorycraft discussions in the future, like the Beta TC thread?
We'd like to. It was really helpful for us as well. (Source)

Player model upgrades any time soon? Any news? No? OK, I thought so. That's really sad.
News hasn't changed. We're working on it. It's a huge project. We are as impatient as you. (Source)

PvP
Overall it seems that people welcome the honor point upgrading but nobody see the point about the CP. Is it just equality?
Currently, glads have more Conquest than they can spend. Others barely finish their gear. That's why we'll have to tweak #s. (Source)

Questing
You know, GC, you guys keep saying "slow down" and it's making me not want to play the game. This isn't fun.
It's in response to players saying "I have to do everything TODAY," when we put a lot of things into MoP. (Source)

Misc
Did you consider to add macro conditions?It's really annoying that drag a spell to action bars each time i changed my talent!
Considering only putting new spells on your bar while you're leveling, not at max level. (Source)

Hey GC, my friend keeps saying the cloud serpents arent dragons. Are they considered dragons in WoW lore?
We named them what we did to leave it nebulous. They aren't part of the whole Aspects scene. (Source)

Are you ever tempted to say things along the lines of "If you don't like the game, don't play" to the more stubborn naysayers?
That's not a great way to keep players. (Source)

Comics - Dark Legacy Comics #364
DLC #364 has been released.

[vMoPPy]

Congrats to Paragon and Method!

[lolo855]

Congratz to paragon and method, gotta lol at the people who were screaming 'hail blood legion' paragon is no moar !!!

Well seems that this tier goes to para and method

Gratz on a great race !

[rockdontroll]

gz close race too easy

[Accelerator]

Why do I feel so much cockyness when ghostcrawler answers shaman questions...
And who are enhancement to think they are the only ones with problem, ele suffer a lot more then what they do...

[Bareno]

I don't know how 5.1 could go live this week... there are so many bugs present on the PTR (Just take a glance at the PTR bug forums)

[Znuff]

Congratz to paragon and method, gotta lol at the people who were screaming 'hail blood legion' paragon is no moar !!!

Well seems that this tier goes to para and method

Gratz on a great race !

Paragon is 10m. They're irrelevant.

[greyghost]

And now the 10 vs 25 rage drags on to here, only to kick into fever pitch as more US players log on who will already be angry about the US losing another World First race.

Whoop dee doooo. Angry babby train, chug on!

edit: Angry babby train beat me by 1 post. :P

[Kabloem]

Seriously Method, how hard is it to bump up multisampling and the screenshot quality for a killshot like that? It looks absolute shit atm, like it was taken in 2001 or something :P

Anyway, gz to both

[Inora]

Paragon is 10m. They're irrelevant.

they are not - they are best 10 man guild in the world and before they was best 25 man guild

btw bloodlegion never was first - they are irrelevant^^

[Mesovr]

Paragon is 10m. They're irrelevant.

Apparently not so much since they made the front page even after being 10 man.

[Ferrouswheel]

Paragon is 10m. They're irrelevant.

What does that make you? A fleck of manure on their shoe?

It's funny that Blood Legion couldn't pull it off even with the huge head start.

[Baalb]

I love it now that Paragon is 10 man and everyone is defending them, but when they said that 10 man was irrelevant and the real game is in 25 man, everyone was like - yeah, that's right, 10 man guilds are a joke...

[Hubbl3]

I love it now that Paragon is 10 man and everyone is defending them, but when they said that 10 man was irrelevant and the real game is in 25 man, everyone was like - yeah, that's right, 10 man guilds are a joke...

Maybe there are... I don't know... different people in the world? World first always gets a gratz from me, regardless who killed it and what raid size it was. Not a problem at all.

[Crushima]

Don't care about the 10man 'world first' but awesome job Method, on the World First 25man heroic mode kill

[Baalb]

Maybe there are... I don't know... different people in the world? World first always gets a gratz from me, regardless who killed it and what raid size it was. Not a problem at all.

Sigh. I wasn't trying to discredit Paragon in any way, I still think they are superb players. It's just when they said 10 man raids are a joke, most people agreed with them and now it seems opinions have changed yet again... I just can't take seriously anyone that changes their view of things as often as napkins. If we stick to the original Paragon philosophy, they shouldn't even be on the front page...

[Doorsfan]

I love it now that Paragon is 10 man and everyone is defending them, but when they said that 10 man was irrelevant and the real game is in 25 man, everyone was like - yeah, that's right, 10 man guilds are a joke...

People who discuss something with passion and not objectivity - Will easily just switch sides as soon as it favors them.

It is the flaw of being passionate about something - You will simply sometimes not be coherent nor reasonable.

[lolo855]

Paragon is 10m. They're irrelevant.

yes yes that's what people keep telling themselves, their world first and that's pretty much it, blizzard themselves said 10 and 25 man are balanced and pretty much same difficulty.

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I love it now that Paragon is 10 man and everyone is defending them, but when they said that 10 man was irrelevant and the real game is in 25 man, everyone was like - yeah, that's right, 10 man guilds are a joke...

I never agreed with that although it's true in WoTlK 10 men we're easier but know it's pretty much balanced out.

[Flagobha]

EU wins yet again, surprise surprise

[lolo855]

Sigh. I wasn't trying to discredit Paragon in any way, I still think they are superb players. It's just when they said 10 man raids are a joke, most people agreed with them and now it seems opinions have changed yet again... I just can't take seriously anyone that changes their view of things as often as napkins. If we stick to the original Paragon philosophy, they shouldn't even be on the front page...

When they said that , 10 man's weren't really as hard (or easy) as 25 man, MoP and part of cata changed that.
Also I highly doubt a lot of people changed their views, just different people with different opinions talking on the same forums.