I don't see a problem with these sorts of public policies. If they are going door to door to private homes, and enforcing them, however, that's when this becomes a problem.Man, this is insane. Does anyone think this Cultural Marxism? Why aren't these men and women allowed to express themselves as they wish without being called a bigot or privileged? Sure, nobody should be discriminated against and it shouldn't be encouraged, but stuff like this seems....inhuman. It doesn't matter which country these sorts of things take place in, as the principles behind these policies ought to be attacked. Free expression is being silenced under the guise of egalitarianism.
Originally Posted by Jevlin
Being told you are civilised or tolerant by one's government does not necessarily mean it's true.
The UK government tells me I live in a multicultural society devoid of racism...
Live and let live, creating laws to force a point is unlikely to work (don't be racist, don't drink alcohol, etc).
Shut down the internet and allow cultures to focus inwards for a generation then switch it back on.
Doesn't look that unreasonable, and looks relatively gender neutral as opposed to anti-gender. The kid is taking a doll's temperature; he could be playing doctor.
Sweden is a ridiculous country. There's nothing to discuss on that matter, it's just a fact. (This comes from a born and raised Swede)
We are unable to deal with real matters like, Economy/Immigration politics/Equality etc, because of labelism.
We are not allowed to have opinions or views that's not accepted by media, yes you read that right, BY THE MEDIA!
If you dare have an opinion that is not accepted by the mainstream media you'll be labeled accordingly.
Have an opinion on our foreign policy? Well, you're a racist.
Have an opinion on equality? You'll get called chauvinist pig.
Have an opinion on taxes? You're clearly a freeloader.
Whatever niche you find yourself in after Media has judged you, the people will agree. Why? Because they fear to be labeled as well.
Let's call it "Jantelagen" or as you perhaps know it, The law of Jante. It's basically an imaginary law forcing you to share the same opinion as the loudest members in our society, in this case Media and whatever frivolous political party they favor the most, this tends to be Socialdemokraterna or SAP for short (faaar far left).
(The definition isn't the same as I described it, but it serves the same purpose)
One should not forget that the media is also a victim of the Jante law and therefor forced to be politically correct as well.
The fun part about this is that the media isn't actually the villain here, they are simply a tool for SAP, or more specifically, the deluded souls who runs it. SAP was once a respectable and very well established party(They still are very well established, unfortunately) in Sweden, but they have become corrupt and greedy and the people refuse to see it.
SAP tells the media how to think and what to share-> Media tells the people how to think and what to vote for-> The people are afraid of labelism, so they only vote for what SAP think is politically correct and that just happens to be exactly the political stance Media has been forced into.
And round it goes, self correcting and endlessly repeating system of oppression.
This is why Sweden is what it is, and it's why you see scandalous, fucking retarded shit like what OP just showed us.
If you ever have any question that starts with *But, why Sweden? Why did you do that?* go back to this post and read it once more.
This explanation can be applied to every question you have about Sweden, it always leads back to what I just explained.
Just to be clear, this isn't nation bashing. I'm a proud Swede and I love my country. I just hate the morons who runs it.
Also, this isn't a rant either, it's just an explanation on how this and many other countries truly work.
Last edited by Jevlin; 2012-11-27 at 09:13 PM.
Something, Something, Something, Dark Side.
And frankly, not to sound like a complete douchebag, but I find it somewhat ironic that you say that Swedish media control our opinions and is making us all think alike, yet you seemingly believe that the article in the OP is absolutely correct about everything, even though it's so strawman it's not even funny.
And I don't fully agree with the article linked, but I do agree on the notion that Sweden has become really anal about political correctness, which I believe was the reason for this thread and the article that OP linked.
Also, I live in Norrköping. It's a dump, and well-known for it.
Edit: I'm having a hard time to believe that you (as a born and ethnic Swede?) is allowed to have a controversy opinion on immigration/well-fare or equality issues?
Last edited by Jevlin; 2012-11-27 at 10:16 PM.
Something, Something, Something, Dark Side.
My Wife being a Hair Stylist, would go broke if this was the case. Men are always the best clients takes 5-10 mins top for a hair cut and you can charge $10-15.00 but no way in hell can you do a Woman's hair for that price, unless of coarse they have a butch hair cut. So if you have to charge the same then the price will be the typical $25.00 for a woman's hair cut, and men simply wont pay that.
Uhm... Well, that article was definitely twisted out of proportion.
The actual story behind this, and the mantra of the movement behind it, is actually kind of the opposite to the "boys will be girls" stuff being spouted on The Telegraph. The whole idea is that you shouldn't be shoehorned by society into strictly defined roles going all the way down to what toys you get to play with as a kid, depending on what's between your legs. If you want to follow a traditional role and be a timid housewife or a muscle-pumping man-man, you should be allowed to do that just as much as if you wish to deviate. But it should be your choice, not something society indoctrinates you with.
Considering how much people seem to love "free expression" and despise the silencing thereof, I'm surprised you have a problem with this. Sounds like a load of hypocrity to me.
PvE:er to the bone. Plays a druid. Also plays DotA and a whole bunch of other stuff. Currently watching: Arrow S2. Listens to mostly everything.
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Ended up at an after party once at Hagabion, place was packed of extreme leftwingers, didn't stop me from saying I'm a liberal, of course by their definition that meant I was a crazy neo liberal that needed to be converted rofl, I'm not a neo liberal, but it's the same shit to most of them, or at least the folks I ran into, I spent the rest of the night defending my stance on different issues, standing around me in a circle was around 10 ung vänster, R:are, etc folks. It wasn't much fun tbh lol! ... but if you allow yourself to be silienced it's pretty much your own problem. And then you are a victim to your own theory, you are affraid to get labeled by the people with whom you disagree.
So what do you feel like you can't say?
Btw most our big newspaper generally have a social liberal outlook, officially at least, there are few proper social democractic medias, Arbetaren(was that the name?) is/was one, dala kurriren is another I think. SVD, DN, GP etc are all social liberal, officially, you may disagree with that though.
My gf pays over 100 for a long seating at her hair stylist. Also, lots of places simply get around this by charging different prices for long and short hair. :P
Last edited by Jackmoves; 2012-11-27 at 11:42 PM.
Shit like this actually goes through your fucking brain?