Hello, I'm an American Gun owner.

[RICH8472]

those rose colored glasses you have are beautiful but you should really take them off and why hasnt anyone responded after i showed them you can fire a semi auto faster than full auto when they told me i was crazy and a flat out liar lol

So illegally modifying a weapon makes it a legit assault rifle? James holes' rifle jammed, did you also know that? Sure was an awesome job he did.....

[Skandulous]

Horrible music, but it's a rifle.

omg im laughing so hard

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So illegally modifying a weapon makes it a legit assault rifle? James holes' rifle jammed, did you also know that? Sure was an awesome job he did.....

i can fire a semi auto faster than full with no mods needed and its 100% legal point is you can argue semantics all you want the gun he used is made to kill people it wasnt made for hunting or target practice it was made to KILL people...if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and walks like a duck it must be a duck


here you go no modes semi auto firing faster than fully auto

[tombstoner139]

I'll solve this issue for you right now.

1)No crime is ever committed with a rifle. Go ahead, try to find some.

2)You'll find maybe 1 in the last 10 years.

3)Crimes are exclusively committed with handguns.

4)Therefore, people with rifles are no threat to the public, but a great asset to the nation.

1) Lee Harvey Oswald -----> JFK
2) yes it was a long time ago others do exist.... 2 teens killed on thanksgiving ar-14 used.... also a rifle
3) Nope, people use knives, axes, and lots of others items like drug trafficking.
4) Denver cinema killings....Washington d.c sniper killings, US solder in Afghanistan used us issue assault rifle for killing afghan civilians.


please stop defending guns... your making us look bad

[Zoranon]

Right to bear arms in time of Militia.. as in When we have no standing army or police force enacted.
We have those in place to protect our nation and homes there fore the amendment is irrelevant...
Tired of gun owners quoting an out of date amendment to claim it's a right. Gun ownership is a privilege.

Uh this is just hilarious, I don't even really know where to start.

Since I am feeling nice I will point you to some things you can read to enlighten you. On the rights front, you might want to start with Heller and McDonald to see two standing cases in which SCOTUS laid this question to rest. To summarize, 2nd protects an individual right to bear arms and this right is incorporated (ie it also applies to states)

PS: Could you show me the section of the US constitution that deals with an amendment going out of date in other way than a new amendment? I would love to see your sources.

[Bigbazz]

Guns don't kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on BBC 2.

[Whitey]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with owning a gun, or even being a gun enthusiast, but if you store them outside a safe you're definitely not a responsible gunowner and thus part of the problem.

Guns don't kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on BBC 2.

GLC <3

[tombstoner139]

[/COLOR] i can fire a semi auto faster than full with no mods needed and its 100% legal point is you can argue semantics all you want the gun he used is made to kill people it wasnt made for hunting or target practice it was made to KILL people...if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and walks like a duck it must be a duck


here you go no modes semi auto firing faster than fully auto

No you CANT fire a semi auto faster then full auto. The time difference is how fast you can pull your finger once * 10, verses once and fire 10 rounds at full auto.
If your comparing two different guns, one semi the other full, then the test is completely invalid. It must be the same gun with both semi and full variants. Your semi auto fire rate is still how fast you can pull your finger..... full auto is how fast you can chamber a round.

[Raidenx]

Its not extremely low, where the hell are you getting that from, its extremely high when you look at statistics, I shouldnt really need to explain the difference between cars and gun deaths, I mean its clear they have no relevance to each other when compared statistically.



This is what I dont understand about a lot of the posters on these forums, why do you think that terrorists are coming to shoot you in your houses, America has NEVER had a threat on their soil, you bring the threat to yourselves forcefully so its no surprise a few scumbag bombers get through the woodwork, but other than that no one is coming to get you, its just unnecessary paranoia you have.

11,000 people die annually from gun murders in the USA, most of which are criminals killing other criminals. Out of 310 million people that is objectively small. More people die from alcohol and the total murder rater per 100,000 people in USA is only 3 more people than your country iirc. Your routine hatred and demagoguery of Americans surely cannot blind you to the reality of the situation. One of the reasons I like it here, better than my home country, is because of the free gun laws to protect yourself. power is not monopolized.

I also find it hypocritical that you always pop up to insult them yet you likely enjoy many aspects of their culture and entertainment. I am not even a native American citizen.

[Kalyyn]

please stop defending guns... your making us look bad

You're the one who intentionally ignored the point of my post and instead chose to pick apart the wording. Nobody is making you look bad but yourself.

[Auloria]

Horrible music, but it's a rifle.

Holy crap, I can't believe the camera man was actually in that room. I would shit my pants with that many people unable to control the recoil.

[Kalyyn]

Arent you airforce? Why would you need a rifle to fight americas enemies? You are issued one.

They don't let me take it home with me >.>

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This is what I dont understand about a lot of the posters on these forums, why do you think that terrorists are coming to shoot you in your houses, America has NEVER had a threat on their soil, you bring the threat to yourselves forcefully so its no surprise a few scumbag bombers get through the woodwork, but other than that no one is coming to get you, its just unnecessary paranoia you have.

Things change. We cannot know what new threats the future will bring.

[Expensiveham]

"Hello, I'm a retard."

how i read the thread title.


Infracted.

No need to post this, just keep it for yourself.

[dantian]

I'm not sure why conservatives are even talking about this. I'm hard left and I own a gun. No one is trying to take away your guns, find something else to whine about.

[Skandulous]

No you CANT fire a semi auto faster then full auto. The time difference is how fast you can pull your finger once * 10, verses once and fire 10 rounds at full auto.
If your comparing two different guns, one semi the other full, then the test is completely invalid. It must be the same gun with both semi and full variants. Your semi auto fire rate is still how fast you can pull your finger..... full auto is how fast you can chamber a round.

you do know that when you pull the trigger once on full auto that 10 bullets don't come out at the same time all in less than a second? and like i said using the bumpfire technique you can pull the trigger as fast as it takes it to fire and chamber the next round to be fired a semi automatic rifle is just as deadly as a fully automatic rifle and its actually more accurate

[Kalyyn]

I'm not sure why conservatives are even talking about this. I'm hard left and I own a gun. No one is trying to take away your guns, find something else to whine about.

There's actually a lot of people trying to take my guns away. They aren't people with power, but that's why we care: we're making sure they never rise to power.

[RICH8472]

They don't let me take it home with me >.>

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Things change. We cannot know what new threats the future will bring.

If the shit hits the fan you would be heading towards the nearest military base, right?

[Kalyyn]

If the shit hits the fan you would be heading towards the nearest military base, right?

Better to be over-prepared than under-prepared.

But more than that, I've accepted the fact that the government itself may someday become the enemy.

[dokilar]

semi auto gun here not full auto being bump fired which u use the recoil to fire the weapon faster than a full auto gun. Yes you guys are Technically right as technically it is not True Assault rifle because it isnt fully auto but i can be made fully auto very easily and you can shoot it as fast as fully auto with trigger mods and technique. So an Assault rifle is fully auto and the same exact gun but semi auto isnt is like saying a Porsche with a manual tranny isnt a Porsche if it has a automatic tranny guess what its still a Porsche and by definition it isnt an assault rifle but it still basically is its made to kill people

im well aware of what bump firing is, ive done it before to see how my pistol would react to it. the problem with bumpfiring is you arent pulling the trigger each time the firearm goes off. therefore still negating your claim you can empty a semi automatic firearm just as fast as someone with a full auto firearm.

also i will disagree that a bump fired firearm's rate of fire is any greater than the said firearm being fired in the correct full auto form. there are inconsistencies with bump firing

[Slacker76]

Better to be over-prepared than under-prepared.

But more than that, I've accepted the fact that the government itself may someday become the enemy.

No one is threatening to take my guns away.

But then I dont advertise my gun collection on the internets.
I also dont advertise my paranoia on the internets.

[dantian]

But more than that, I've accepted the fact that the government itself may someday become the enemy.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but should push come to shove the military would crush any rebellion effortlessly. Tanks and drones beat well-armed civilians.